Large Scale Central

Ovals of track?

Ever since I was a little kid, and my Dad was constructing model railroad layouts, it always had a ““loop”” in it, to allow trains to run constantly… Along this loop, would be sidings for industries, engine facilities, etc, etc… Whatever was allowed to be put in with building size and area around the layout… The whole idea, was to wath a train run… Dad didn’t really think too much in terms or actually, operating the trains back then… Most of these layouts were HO scale…

As I got older, this way of thinking always stuck with me...  Layouts consisted of a ""loop"", to run trains on, and sidings to have cars sit on....  Engine terminals to have engines sit in...   my Ho layouts had this ""theme"" of thinking, as well as my N-scale layouts later on...

My first Large Scale layout was basically a dogleg shaped into an upside down U, with one track running in front of a fence, and the other track running behind the fence...  There were no sidings... I just put out the train, and let it run....  For some reason, i did put a passing track in, but I really had no reason for doing so, as it was all powered by one tranformed, and no blocks built in...  I couldn't do too much, as we would only be there for 2 years, and this was military family housing, on base...

 My second layout, was built when we first moved back to illinois, and bought a house...  Bascially, this was my own design of a ""canned"" plan in a track plan book...  It had about 250 feet of mainline, but again, it was only one loop....  Sure, it crossed over each itself, and ran along side itself, and had a tunnel of sorts...  It also had a siding for a grain elevator, and a freight yard and engine terminal....   But, it was mostly used to run a train around in a circle...  the yard and engine terminal on this layout was mostly for display purposes....   Swtiches were hard to get to, without stepping on other track...   But, again, this was built on the mentalilty of running trains, not for operations..  Also, mine was all track power, not battery powered...   Don't even think I knew about battery power back then....

Actual operations on a model railroad layout, was shown to me, from attending one of Ric's ""Operating Sessions""...  It was something different...  running between stations, calling into a dispatcher, getting permission to move into the next "block" <going to the next station>....

 I've been involed in the operations on Ric's railroad going on 5 years now....  It's really enjoyable, <when it's not raining, snowing, or droppin accorns, or 40 below & 40 MPH winds>..   I have watched the ""operations"" grow and become more proficient, more involved, more interesting to operate, and most of all, more fun.....

 Currently, since wife & I retired, we built and moved into a new house...   took up all the old track from the other layouts, and will re-use it, mostly inside and put new track outside...  My planning process is to make this new design runable <with a loop> and opertions worthy...   I have a track plan <mostly in my head>, but have a basic for the outside portion laid out on paper....

 Basically, what I'm constructing is two loops, one inside, and one outside..  Each will be a single line track, with passing sidings....  Most bridges will be single track.  the two loops will be connected by lifting a window and inserting a ""bridge section"" to connect them..

If all goes well, the outside will have a branch line that will deadend and will have an interchange with the mainline…

 The way I plan on building this layout, it will still have two ""Ovals of Track"", because, I still like to see trains run....  Some days, I'll sit and watch them run, the same way, as I'll always look up, and watch an airplane fly, when I hear it pass...  Whether it be a model, or real, there will always be a wonderment of watching it move, amazed that it can...

Didn't meant to get so long fingered there, sorry for the length...   It just all got me to thinking....          <smile>

Yo Steve - just pointing out that not all the posters on this great web-site have ‘400 foot long beginner’s layouts’, that’s all. The train make-up sidings at Fr. Fred’s place are twice the size of my entire layout…

The green-eyed monster was talking again, OK?

Best wishes from the Great Eastern Emptiness - known better as East Anglia

tac
Ottawa Valley GRs

Andy C. may say he has the plans jus tin his head, but the terrain is being formed with waterways and stone walls. He has a sketch pad with a basic idea and lots of thoughts as he follows the operaktions of the Evansville Western RR.

We were with Andy and Jane the first year they visited Marty Cozad’s layout. The rest of us looked around and enjoyed Marty’s layout, Andy and Jane were making so many plans you could see the steam rising from the tops of their heads. I haven’t seen a slow down since.

Terry A de C Foley said:
Yo Steve - just pointing out that not all the posters on this great web-site have ‘400 foot long beginner’s layouts’, that’s all. The train make-up sidings at Fr. Fred’s place are twice the size of my entire layout… The green-eyed monster was talking again, OK? Best wishes from the Great Eastern Emptiness - known better as East Anglia tac Ottawa Valley GRs

tac How much airspace do you have above that footprint in your garden??? Are there height restrictions in your neighbourhood??

Just to ring in here …

Mine’s actually indoors … I have a basement of about 40x40 feet. THe layout is a folded loop (which allows one to get from the stairs to the laundry machines or the back door without ducking under anything) and is designed as a pier-to-mine railroad… with a choice: You can arrange a landslide or trackwork crew just beyond the mine, and run point to point, or leave that section open, and make it a point-to-loop … the idea being that the railroad’s on an island, and most of the mainline IS a loop, formed when the two major routes on either side of the island were connected by military interests with the idea of deploying rail artillery. The resulting arrangement allows several different kinds of operations depending on what appeals to you … or continuous running for visitors, or for the times you want to sit on the stairs and railfan the whole thing at once.

Now if I can only manage some scenery … I’ll be able to post photos!

Matthew (OV)

One can do what he sets his mind to. A loop if its large enough can also provide you with many of operating opertunityies. The only limits are your imagination. I for one was never fond of a point to point even in HO. There are times I just like to be able to get out and run a high speed Pig train across country. BTW Rick it was nice talking to you at Perry even tho I did not get to try my hand. Later RJD

R.J. DeBerg said:
One can do what he sets his mind to. A loop if its large enough can also provide you with many of operating opertunityies. The only limits are your imagination. I for one was never fond of a point to point even in HO. There are times I just like to be able to get out and run a high speed Pig train across country. BTW Rick it was nice talking to you at Perry even tho I did not get to try my hand. Later RJD
Dear Mr DeBerg - I have to agree with you wholeheartedly. With my 75 foot single track on sticks, a vivid imagination is a real asset, especially as I tend to run triple or even quadruple headers of Dash 9s or SD-45s with as long a consist as I can fit on the track.

My point of view, bearing in mind that the track is about two feet off the ground at the bottom end, enables me to imagine that I’m looking through a window as the trains go by - my mind selectively ignores the distant view across the track to the other side…

You can make a BIG train appear very slowly about once a minute, THAT is busy to me.

It’s all in the mind. And in my case, there’s plenty of room.

tac
Ottawa Valley GRS

I’m where Cale’s at, except in his case it’s sons, in my case grandsons, ages 4 and 2. Circles and tunnels until the boys get older! I’ve spent $$$ on rolling stock with toy cars, etc., on the theory that the youngsters will be at least as interested in the toys as the trains at this age.

Some Bridgewerks transformers allow you to connect a switch (momentary, normally-closed) to the power supply. The theory is, you set the max speed for the train. The little people press the button and the train goes. When they release the button, the train slows down and stops.

The switch costs about a dollar, and there are instructions on the Bridgewerks site if, like me, you are an electronics amateur. The transformer only arrived day before yesterday, so I haven’t tested the switch yet.