Large Scale Central

Outdoor phone for the layout

Our outdoor layout is far from the house and garage. And it always seemed the phone would ring when we were out at the layout. Many times these were important client calls.

Cell phones don’t work out where we are. No nearby tower, and the mountains really mess with signals.

So I thought about installing an outdoor phone at the layout so if I was ever out playing with trains and a call came in I would be able to get it. Kind of like an old railroad call box.

I looked online for outdoor phones and couldn’t find much that was fairly affordable or included a ringer.

Then I found an old Western Electric outdoor phone on eBay that also had a ringer. It didn’t work when I got it…Well at least the first time I tried it. But some minor wire work on the inside and I got it to work. The hardest part was figuring out how to wire it to our existing landline wiring (2 line system). The standard red and green for one line was easy, but the black wire also had to tie into the red to get the ringer to work. The yellow wire was used as the ground.

OK maybe the hardest part was digging and burying the 200 + feet of phone cable. I think I now know why these are called the rocky mountains. So many rocks I had to dig through.

But I really like the feeling of accomplishing something like this. And it is fun calling out on a rotary phone. I kind of remember rotary phones when I was really young, but it’s been a long time.

Here it is. It is mounted to a piece of cedar (treated with Jasco Termin-8 black) which is mounted to a tree. Ponderosa pines make great mounting posts.

Hello, Central? Gimme FIr 5-3513, please. Mable, get off the line, dammit!

I remember those days.

And that thing will probably last forever…:wink:

You can do that with any old telephone. Just build a box, and mount the telephone in it. The box should be constructed in such a way that it is weather proof.

The real railroads did it, so can we. You can even use a more modern telephone too, if you can’t figure out how to use the rotary dial.

Around here, we only need two wires…

Goos idea. I love your layout out their. How often do you get to your place? You have not seen rocks until you you come out to the Northeast. We have nothing but rocks above and below ground.

One thing to look for is some type of lightning arrester inline at the house. Even with the cable buried if you get a ground strike close by it may fry your home telephones among other things.

Possibly something from here. http://www.l-com.com/content/hyperlinkbrand.html

Now you won’t miss those timeshare calls and offers to allow you to donate to your favorite political party or organization.

Seriously, rotary dial? Over 30 years ago, one of our kids friends had to ask how to use one of those things, because they had never seen one.

Shawn Viggiano said:

Goos idea. I love your layout out their. How often do you get to your place? You have not seen rocks until you you come out to the Northeast. We have nothing but rocks above and below ground.

If I can, I try to get out here during the summer. This year I could. Not sure about next year. But I can do a lot of work out here too and the new phone helps with that

Jeff Walls said:

One thing to look for is some type of lightning arrester inline at the house. Even with the cable buried if you get a ground strike close by it may fry your home telephones among other things.

Yep. Installed one for this. I figured since I mounted this phone to a tree, it is more likely then not lighting could be an issue. Although I wouldn’t mind some type of precipitation out here. So dry and fires starting to pop up around. Massive one right now near Wolf Creek pass.

Seems to me missing phone calls might be the point of having the rail road way out there.

Tom Ruby said:

Seems to me missing phone calls might be the point of having the rail road way out there.

You’d think that. But I have to pay for the trains. And a lot of my work is via the phone.

But this way I can have an Airwire remote in one hand and the phone in the other :wink:

Tom Ruby said:

Seems to me missing phone calls might be the point of having the rail road way out there.

I fully agree, just like leaving all the computer stuff at home when railfanning.

SWMBO had her line set to the max rings before going to voice mail, really annoying. I fixed it.

:wink: :slight_smile:

Matt Doti said:

Tom Ruby said:

Seems to me missing phone calls might be the point of having the rail road way out there.

You’d think that. But I have to pay for the trains. And a lot of my work is via the phone.

But this way I can have an Airwire remote in one hand and the phone in the other :wink:

:slight_smile: :slight_smile:

As long as you remember which is what and don’t disconnect the call when trying to apply the brakes.

:slight_smile: :stuck_out_tongue:

What you need for lightning are carbons.

Old outdoor terminal blocks had carbons in them. Hex head tings, threaded, spring loaded carbons like brushes.

And a big ground wire attached to the box and the requisite rod 8’ in the ground.

In a former life I ran my own phone company.

It was a Bell system, Strowger Switches with hundreds of WE Type 300 handsets.

Buried line, came up to the boxes, then two pair wired to the handset.

We’d get lightning strikes 20 miles away, and it would knock someone on their arse. Volcanic soils…electricity ran along the surface. I was replacing carbons weekly, in lightning season, daily.

So, that’s what you need to A) keep on your feet, not your arse, and B) to keep the lightning from blowing your wiring up (literally).

1942 Bell system installed at the Jacobs Aircraft Plant in Pottsville, Pennsylvania in 1942, if I remember.

We had it in the Llanos of Colombia, 70 miles east of Villavicencio.

TOC

You mentioned you used Jasco Termin 8 black. Did you buy this recently and if so, where?

BTW couldn’t one just use a cordless phone and be done? Just asking.

:wink: :slight_smile:

Dan Patterson said:

You mentioned you used Jasco Termin 8 black. Did you buy this recently and if so, where?

It was purchased several years ago. I checked online at it appears it is no longer manufactured. That sucks as it is a great product for preserving wood. My mine portal was treated with Jasco and it’s holding up extremely well underground.

Hans-Joerg Mueller said:

BTW couldn’t one just use a cordless phone and be done? Just asking.

:wink: :slight_smile:

We tried one, but it didn’t work all that well. Might be the trees, thick metal roof, distance from house to layout, ???

And go figure this. Just today Verizon (my cell provider) upped their signal in our area. Now cell phones will work. Makes sense this would happen right after I finished installing the phone :stuck_out_tongue:

Matt Doti said:

Hans-Joerg Mueller said:

BTW couldn’t one just use a cordless phone and be done? Just asking.

:wink: :slight_smile:

We tried one, but it didn’t work all that well. Might be the trees, thick metal roof, distance from house to layout, ???

And go figure this. Just today Verizon (my cell provider) upped their signal in our area. Now cell phones will work. Makes sense this would happen right after I finished installing the phone :stuck_out_tongue:

Haha thats how it always goes. If anything it looks cool.