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#34

Steve Featherkile said:

Craig said: "until the hoghead plugged it! "

Please define. Tango Yankee.

Sheesh I thought you people knew stuff… :wink:

“The hogger (engineer) plugged it (highly technical term for making a full emergency brake application)!”

The conductor wasn’t so pleased either… Let’s just say that the RFE had his territory reassigned to the calmer waters of the Coastline… The best RFE’s we had were former hogheads that worked the mountain for 20+ years. They knew what worked and what didn’t work, but for some reason the company didn’t keep them around for long.

#35

Thanks. Hogger and hoghead I knew, but “plugged it” was beyond me. I’m glad to know that it is in the same class of technical term for railroading as “gone the whole nine yards,” and “cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey,” are for naval warfare.

:slight_smile:

#36

I think “giving 'em the whole nine yards” was an Army Air Corps saying. Maybe Naval Air, I dunno. Those brass monkeys just can’t hold on to their balls when it gets too cold. What about “three sheets to the wind”? Or cursing like a drunken sailor? You Navy guys have such colorful language.

“Garry Owens!”

#37

No, the AAF stole it from the Navy, and they didnt even have the courtesy to file off the serial numbers. Three sheets in the wind belongs to the Navy, as does the drunken sailor.
We are acolorful group.that is true.

#38

Steve Featherkile said:
they didnt even have the courtesy to file off the serial numbers

:slight_smile: :slight_smile:

#39

Steve Featherkile said:

Thanks. Hogger and hoghead I knew, but “plugged it” was beyond me.

When a hoghead or cornductor (sp) “plugs it” they move the brake valve handle from a release position, and exhaust all the air out of the trainline. So I’m not sure how the term came about because you’re not actually plugging anything, but rather releasing… Strange how saying come about huh?

See if you can figure this one out.

Tower calls the helper to let him know the Pig is ready on 5, but first the carknocker has to grab Fred, so the Hogger can hook up Mary with Fred. But first the cornductor wants beans before he leaves so he can get some initial. Meanwhile in the yard, the hump is working 6, but has another cut for 5 so the utility has to lace the air after the joint is made so don’t shove out the house until the hump says they are in the clear on the back track. At the same time over the radio you hear a “one car too far… Looks like we bent the wrong iron”

Oops can I officially derail the thread? Has it gone the required 3 pages yet? :wink:

#40

Craig Townsend said:

Oops can I officially derail the thread? Has it gone the required 3 pages yet? :wink:

No it hasn’t, but let’s see what Steve does with all the lingo.

:slight_smile:

#41

Hans-Joerg Mueller said:

Craig Townsend said:

Oops can I officially derail the thread? Has it gone the required 3 pages yet? :wink:

No it hasn’t, but let’s see what Steve does with all the lingo.

:slight_smile:

I’ll confuse him more this this one liner…

The goat chaser is trying to track down the herder meanwhile the yard bull is trying to find the foamer that crossed through the pig and pulled the pin…

#42

Craig Townsend said:

I’ll confuse him more this this one liner…

The goat chaser is trying to track down the herder meanwhile the yard bull is trying to find the foamer that crossed through the pig and pulled the pin…

He can try Google to translate it.

:stuck_out_tongue: :slight_smile: :stuck_out_tongue:

#43

OK. The way I see it is the Tree Huggers bitch when we dig it out of the ground. And now they are bitching because we are putting it back.

#44

Craig Townsend said:

Steve Featherkile said:

Thanks. Hogger and hoghead I knew, but “plugged it” was beyond me.

When a hoghead or cornductor (sp) “plugs it” they move the brake valve handle from a release position, and exhaust all the air out of the trainline. So I’m not sure how the term came about because you’re not actually plugging anything, but rather releasing… Strange how saying come about huh?

See if you can figure this one out.

Tower calls the helper to let him know the Pig is ready on 5, but first the carknocker has to grab Fred, so the Hogger can hook up Mary with Fred. But first the cornductor wants beans before he leaves so he can get some initial. Meanwhile in the yard, the hump is working 6, but has another cut for 5 so the utility has to lace the air after the joint is made so don’t shove out the house until the hump says they are in the clear on the back track. At the same time over the radio you hear a “one car too far… Looks like we bent the wrong iron”

Oops can I officially derail the thread? Has it gone the required 3 pages yet? :wink:

Hmm, I know most of the terms except “beans before he leaves so he can get some initial.”

Helper - obvious
Pig - train
carknocker - Brakeman
Fred - end of train device
Mary - In-Line train brake system
Hump - Yard Crew
“utility has to lace the air after the joint is made so don’t shove out the house until the hump says they are in the clear on the back track” - that just means they have to keep from shoving the train up track 5 until the train departing on track 5 is clear.
Bent the wrong iron - ran the train through the wrong switch.

I think I got it…

#45

Craig Townsend said:

Steve Featherkile said:

Thanks. Hogger and hoghead I knew, but “plugged it” was beyond me.

When a hoghead or cornductor (sp) “plugs it” they move the brake valve handle from a release position, and exhaust all the air out of the trainline. So I’m not sure how the term came about because you’re not actually plugging anything, but rather releasing… Strange how saying come about huh?

See if you can figure this one out.

Tower calls the helper to let him know the Pig is ready on 5, but first the carknocker has to grab Fred, so the Hogger can hook up Mary with Fred. But first the cornductor wants beans before he leaves so he can get some initial. Meanwhile in the yard, the hump is working 6, but has another cut for 5 so the utility has to lace the air after the joint is made so don’t shove out the house until the hump says they are in the clear on the back track. At the same time over the radio you hear a “one car too far… Looks like we bent the wrong iron”

Oops can I officially derail the thread? Has it gone the required 3 pages yet? :wink:

My Dick Tracy Super Duper Decoder Ring, that I got for 25 Cents and two Wheaties box tops was able to decode the above message, with the exception of “hook up Mary with Fred,” and “cornductor.” Fred I understand, but Mary is new to me. Cornductor I suspect may be a derogatory term for Conductor, or may be a typo. I’m not sure abot that one.

:slight_smile:

#46

Hans-Joerg Mueller said:

Craig Townsend said:

I’ll confuse him more this this one liner…

The goat chaser is trying to track down the herder meanwhile the yard bull is trying to find the foamer that crossed through the pig and pulled the pin…

He can try Google to translate it.

:stuck_out_tongue: :slight_smile: :stuck_out_tongue:

Google was no help. But my Dick Tracy Super Duper Decoder Ring came through. "The crew caller was looking for the engineer (or cornductor), meanwhile the Railroad Policeman is trying to find HJ who crossed through the train and uncoupled a (some) car(s).

#47

:slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

Not me, besides I’m easy to see, I wear a HVV.

#48

Now these loons (sorry to disparage your National B1rd, HJ) want to replace coal with Hemp.

Sigh.

#49

Steve Featherkile said:

Hans-Joerg Mueller said:

Craig Townsend said:

I’ll confuse him more this this one liner…

The goat chaser is trying to track down the herder meanwhile the yard bull is trying to find the foamer that crossed through the pig and pulled the pin…

He can try Google to translate it.

:stuck_out_tongue: :slight_smile: :stuck_out_tongue:

Google was no help. But my Dick Tracy Super Duper Decoder Ring came through. "The crew caller was looking for the engineer (or cornductor), meanwhile the Railroad Policeman is trying to find HJ who crossed through the train and uncoupled a (some) car(s).

Close but no cigar… The goat chaser is a roundhouse guy who travels around the terminal doing daily inspections on the yard engines, changes out brake shoes and that’s about it. The herder is a holster (ever heard that term?) who can only run light locomotives. Inside hostler means he can only run inside the roundhouse terminal. Outside hostler, or hostler, or herder can move light locomotives anywhere in the terminal. The term Pig refers to intermodal or stack trains.

And yes Cornductor is not a spelling mistake! :slight_smile:

#50

Jake Smith said:

Craig Townsend said:

Steve Featherkile said:

Thanks. Hogger and hoghead I knew, but “plugged it” was beyond me.

When a hoghead or cornductor (sp) “plugs it” they move the brake valve handle from a release position, and exhaust all the air out of the trainline. So I’m not sure how the term came about because you’re not actually plugging anything, but rather releasing… Strange how saying come about huh?

See if you can figure this one out.

Tower calls the helper to let him know the Pig is ready on 5, but first the carknocker has to grab Fred, so the Hogger can hook up Mary with Fred. But first the cornductor wants beans before he leaves so he can get some initial. Meanwhile in the yard, the hump is working 6, but has another cut for 5 so the utility has to lace the air after the joint is made so don’t shove out the house until the hump says they are in the clear on the back track. At the same time over the radio you hear a “one car too far… Looks like we bent the wrong iron”

Oops can I officially derail the thread? Has it gone the required 3 pages yet? :wink:

Hmm, I know most of the terms except “beans before he leaves so he can get some initial.”
Beans is lunch. Initial is short for initial terminal delay. Under the older agreements train crews used to get initial and final terminal delay. This was calculated from various points, but most of the time started after 1 hour. For initial, if you went on duty at 1400, but didn’t depart the terminal (a specific milepost) until after 1500 then any time from 1500 until you passed the end of the terminal was considered initial terminal delay. Final terminal delay is similar but it was an hour after you entered the terminal until you tied up. Regardless, if you were on duty say 6 hours (5 hours of initial) the conductor might request to take beans. Most likely the TM will deny the beans cause he wants you out of his terminal, so the crew gets even more pay…

Tower- Yardmaster

Helper - obvious
Pig - train Intermodal or Stack Train. A Pig train is normally a hot train as well.
carknocker - Brakeman Carman
Fred - end of train device
Mary - In-Line train brake system Head End device that connects to the FRED
Hump - Yard Crew that works just the hump yard.
“utility has to lace the air after the joint is made so don’t shove out the house until the hump says they are in the clear on the back track” - that just means they have to keep from shoving the train up track 5 until the train departing on track 5 is clear.
Bent the wrong iron - ran the train through the wrong switch.

I think I got it…

#51

Ok, Craig, try this…

“The Snipes in the Hole are trying to add more turns, but CHENG says we are already Balls to the Wall, and there is nothing more to give.”

#52

I thought “Wilma” was the head end device that talked with “Fred”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_of_Train_Device_(ETD)

#53

Steve Featherkile said:

Ok, Craig, try this…

“The Snipes in the Hole are trying to add more turns, but CHENG says we are already Balls to the Wall, and there is nothing more to give.”

If it’s Navy slang no clue… my Dad was a reservist in the the AF… :wink: