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Newbie: Wanted Passenger car

Hello all,

Hope you are all doing well. I am just getting into G scale modeling and was looking to build a small G scale model train set. I have all the track, some luggage cars and an engine assembled but would love to get a green passenger car. I saw the discussion about the Newqida passenger car in green. Would anyone be willing to sell an extra they might have. Or could recommend a place where I can buy them (the store mentioned in Utah does not currently have any). Or any other similar car that would be relatively inexpensive…and where to buy, it would be greatly greatly appreciated!!

This might be a relatively inexpensive way for me to try this hobby out. Looking at the forum most of you seem to be experts. My apologies for the novice questions. Thanks all!

Cheers,
Saul

Saul,
if you email the store in Utah, they may give an indication if further green coaches have been ordered. He does have plenty of red and blue coaches and they are as nice as the green, although not as prototypical. I purchased quite a few green coaches, but had to wait several months for the shipment to arrive before being able to purchase. It seems that he does not take ‘advance’ orders.

Link to store -

http://www.hammondtoy.com/shop/agora.cgi?product=NEWQIDA%20TOYS%20FACTORY

Thanks a bunch for the quick response Tim. I did email them and they said it will probably be a few months before they get any more stock. That is why I was wondering…I will try to buy the blue coach from him and see how it works out. But any other suggestions on other cars would be welcome. Thanks again!

Saul,
I assume that you must be modelling European prototype, so choices are very limited. A comparable (in looks) LGB car would be around $200.00 and other similar LGB cars (#3X70/3X71 series cars) will set you back at least $80 - $120.

  If modelling American theme,   then it is hard to pass up on the Bachmann coaches around $40.00,  new from most online discounters.

Thanks again Tim

then it is hard to pass up on the Bachmann coaches around $40.00

I would actually not mind buying one of these. Any recommedations for a good online retailer/model would be greatly appreciated. Most of you seem to have preferred choices. I would be happy to buy from the same place you folks buy the Bachmann coaches…

I buy usually only from Ridge Road Station in New Jersey. Link to Bachmann coaches -

http://www.ridgeroadstation.com/istar.asp?a=3&dept=TRAINS&class=G&subclass=CARS&manufacturer=117&sortby=&numperpage=21&pos=21

Many recommend Wholesaletrains but they are more expensive for some items, like the coaches -

http://www.wholesaletrains.com/GProducts2.asp?Scale=G&Item=160Passenger

Thanks Tim! This is fantastic! I will order from him. Thanks so much for all your help with this. Greatly appreciated. Have a great week!

Welcome to the forums, and to the hobby!

Thanks Ray! I hope to learn more from you guys in the coming days! Thanks for the welcome :slight_smile:

Over on the G scale Mad forum a guy repainted some of the Newquida cars. Came apart pretty easily and he sprayed them. Might check it out. cheap and quick wqy to get your green.
http://www.gscalemad.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=3431

Thanks Jerry. I just posted the same as a question and just saw this. This is so cool! He used car polish too.

Any recommedations for any cleaning solutions/liquids would be great!

Thanks again!

Saul,
never ever use mineral turpentine to clean plastics. Methylated spirits is relatively safe if washed off immediately. I find that for bare plastics, then a simple wash in warm diluted detergent and rinse in clean warm water, is fine. Allow preferably overnight drying before painting. Always use a plastic compatible primer undercoat over bare plastic. Never apply a finishing/topcoat to a bare plastic surface.

Thanks for the feedback Tim. I will go to the local hobby store to pick up the undercoat primer, topcoat and the methylated spirit solvent to remove the marking.

Any preferred brand for the methylated spirt that I should buy?

Thanks agin for all you help Tim! Much appreciated!

Saul

Saul,
I would only use a solvent to remove moulding oils impregnated during the mould process (not necessary on a car already painted like the Bachmann cars). Never use automotive thinners as a plastic solvent. To remove logos/insignias on a car that is to be overpainted, then I use an extremely fine black sanding paper used in the automotive respray industry. We call it ‘Wet’n’dry’. It is used in conjunction with water which washes away the residue grit from the sanding to minimise scratching. For fine detail sanding like logos, I would use a grade 800 or 1200 paper to minimise scratching. When repainting Bachmann coaches, I always lightly sand the painted finish and existing roadname (400 grade grit paper), to enable overcoats to key with the existing painted surface. It only requires a light ‘scuffing’. Bachmann painted surfaces can be very tricky to overcoat, particularly black and red/maroon painted surfaces.

 I purchase my primer undercoats from auto accessory stores and never purchase the economy brandnames.  Hobby store undercoats tend to be expensive for the purchased quantities,  due small aerosol can sizing (around 50ml to 100ml).  I prefer the larger 'jumbo' cans around 400ml from auto accessory stores,  as these are more economical.  Ensure the primer purchased is compatible with plastics,  as very few actually are and the plastic surface crazes.  Also it is a false economy to buy hobby store spray paints,  as to paint a single coach would require at least three or four hobby-sized cans.  I buy either hardware store or automotive accessory store paints,  ensuring to never buy the cheap economy brands.

 If you have never previously embarked on painting larger objects like coach bodies,  then I suggest practice spraying on scraps, prior to painting the car body.

Saul, this is the last project I built some weeks ago. As you see it is built from Bachmann coach body parts and is comprised of bare plastic surfaces and painted surfaces. The painted surfaces required a light sanding to key the finish coats. A primer coat applied initially, will key the entire finishing coats, giving an even colour spread over the car. First photo is ‘bare’ body’ and second is the finished product.

(http://www.lscdata.com/users/tim_brien/_forumfiles/madderstf.JPG)

(http://www.lscdata.com/users/tim_brien/_forumfiles/2003_0101Image0012.JPG)

Wow! Thanks for all the advice Tom. This is very useful. I will keep you updated on my progress. Thanks again!
Saul

Nice job Tim.

Hello all,
I am trying to fix a gap in the section using a trestle. I was planning on getting this.

https://www.ridgeroadstation.com/istar.asp?a=6&id=2557106!255

My ask was: How are all the pieces stabilized. I mean do they fit it with the track that stabilizes them. Basically if I understand correctly, I line up all 12 of them and place the tracks on top that will probably fit in tightly. Am I correct? Can I play around with the width between them or is it fixed. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Saul

Saul,
position at will, but I would not space more than say six inches maximum. At one time Aristo provided a separate kit that contained threaded brass rods that were fitted diagonally to brace the trestles. I have not seen these advertised for many years, so must assume that they are no longer available. The plastic used on these trestles, is an ABS type, so if bracing was to be used, then ordinary styrene solvent glue will not hold correctly. They are more intended as a temporary support. If using long term, then ideally the trestles should be fitted with longitudinal bearers along the top and then the track placed over these.

Thanks Tim! As I read the description, it said it required cement. Is this for holding the track in place? So if I put one every three inches I would have 3 feet of track and would have to use the cement to hold the track in plane on top of the trestle. am I correct in my assumptions?