Bob Cope said:
Noah to God........What's a cubit???Bob C.
Yeah, he prolly more used to feet and inches, him.
tac
www.ovgrs.org
Yeah, he prolly more used to feet and inches, him.
And then he had to make a smaller scale arc to tow behind the prototype.
You know, for the pair of skunks! 
Time to get back to building cars Here is a shot of the combine car side
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1849.jpg)
A close-up of the framing around the freight door
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1853.jpg)
Two completed sides
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1852.jpg)
Here are the completed sides for the observation car
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1875.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1876.jpg)
[ Here is an end with the lower door brace in place. There will be five of these and then a special one for the observation car platform end.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1854.jpg)
Roof doubler added as well as framing around the door
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1866.jpg)
Cut a piece of three ply cardstock to fit in the door opening and frame around it, then cut out the windows
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1867.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1868.jpg)
Glue the door into the end and it is done
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1869.jpg)
Thats all for now. Back to the shop. Enjoy, Ron
Coming on great, Ron - don’t stop now!!! Sadly, I only have room to build one at a time. Looks like you do your siding the same way that I do - with either a used up ball-point pen o an old stylus.
tac
www.ovgrs.org
They’re looking good Ron
Terry, here is a photo of the tool that I use to scribe the siding lines in the plywood. It is just an old hacksaw blade with all the teeth except for the last three ground off and then ground to fit in a handle. I think it is an Xacto #5 handle but I’m not sure.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1841.jpg)
Now on to building the special end for the observation car. This is a photo of a car on the Sumpter Valley railroad near Baker City, Oregon. I took this photo a couple of years ago. I am not duplicating this car, I just like the way the end is finished. Particularly note the curved door frame, and the set back from the end of the walls.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1299.jpg)
I started with the same end as all the others and then went from there.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1854.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1855.jpg)
Here you can see the top of the rounded door frame.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1856.jpg)
Add some more framing to build up the bulk
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1857.jpg)
Then round it over. I used a 1/8 moulding bit in my Dremel to do this
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1860.jpg)
A little more framing to define the window
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1861.jpg)
The door framed and with the windows cut out
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1862.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1863.jpg)
And the finished product. The tabs on the bottom will be removed before installation.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1864.jpg)
Now back to the shop. Next, to begin assembling the car bodies. Enjoy, Ron
Very nice. Thanks!
Because I’m working on something similar, I’m interested in the details of how you plan to build the rear platform railings … what will you do?
Matthew (OV)
Matthew, I haven’t really given the railings a lot of thought yet. I will probably make something out of brass or possibly brass and wood. I just am not sure at this point. Here are a few more pics of the construction First up, the coach, first assembly with roof beams attached
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1890.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1891.jpg)
Here is the combine car with all the roof framing in place
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1887.jpg)
The door for the combine and some shots of the framing to allow it to open
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1878.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1881.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1882.jpg)
Completed door
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1886.jpg)
Coach with all the roof framing
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1890.jpg)
Coach with the roof installed
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1892.jpg)
Enjoy, Ron
Hi Ron,
Very nice, really enjoying your building log. Your cars look super. Do you have any idea how much the completed car weighs?? I wonder how they would compare to the AMS passinger car which weighs about 6.5 pounds.
Please keep the photos comming and thank for sharing.
Chuckger
Ron - I forgot to ask before - you ARE building these cars in Fn3, are you not?
Best
tac
www.ovgrs.org
Chuck, the only scale I have is an old spring scale and I’m not sure how accurate it is but the one car that I finished, (in the beginning of this thread) is a little under 2 1/4 pounds. By the time I add the LED lighting and two AA batteries to power it, it should still be under 2 1/2 pounds. I have not had a chance to run it on my railroad yet (snow) so I don’t know how it will work. I may have to add some weight but I hope not. Probably won’t get a chance to run them for another 2 or 3 months yet.
Terry, yes they are Fn3.
Enjoy, Ron
Here is some more on the construction. The plans call for using 1/8 balsa for the sides of the clerestory, then attaching the window frames to them but not cutting the holes. On my first car I used 1/8 and then framed the windows with 1/32 basswood strips. I cut out the windows but the whole thing ended up looking kind of clunky closeup. On these cars I decided to try something different, so I used 1/16 aircraft plywood, cut the window frames from cardstock and glued them on. I then cut out the holes. I think it gave the car a better look. Here is a shot of the side and then a closeup.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1893.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1894.jpg)
Then a couple of pics of the completed framing
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1896.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1895.jpg)
The framing and sheeting of the end,
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1898.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1900.jpg)
The completed coach, a little filling and sanding and then paint
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1912.jpg)
And the combine
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1913.jpg)
Now back to the observation car where I am again trying something different Enjoy, Ron
Those are sharp Ron. Like the celestory window work.
wouw! Thats a thing!
Hi Ron,
Looking good and thanks again for the reply on the weight of the cars.
Chuckger
Those are really turning out nice. The card stock was a great idea.
Welcome back to all of you, now to continue with the observation car Here is a pic of the doubler added to the inside of the side in what will be the open end of the car
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1905.jpg)
Two shots of the open end of the car in basic assembly
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1906.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1907.jpg)
Two pics of the roof ribs. I borrowed this idea from another build.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1908.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1909.jpg)
Clerestory sides and partial roof installed
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1914.jpg)
View in the observation end with the roof completed
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1927.jpg)
After I got this far, I decided that I didn’t like the open cardstock areas on the side, so I decided to sheet them in. Also note the steps are now installed.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1928.jpg)
Here is a pic of the step assembly, the pieces, a partially completed step, and a final assembly. The steps are made from basswood.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1918.jpg)
And finally a left and right side shot of the completed car, ready for the paint.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1930.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab29/trainman57/Passenger%20car%20build/DSCN1929.jpg)
All of the cars are now being painted. Then it is on to the roofs and interiors. Check back in a few days for more pictures. Hope you are all enjoying, Ron
Ron,
I for one am definitely enjoying.