Who, besides the White Pass, EBT, Uintah and Sumpter Valley used inside framed Mikes? Did any Colorado RR’s use them?
The Yukon had Outside frame too, not that you asked that, but one of them wound up at Tweetsie…
(http://www.lscdata.com/users/cale_nelson/Tweetsie%20190/190wet.jpg)
and her sister is at Dollywood…
The Feds sent a string of D&RG K’s to the White Pass during WWII.
After the war, they returned to Co.
I’m thinking about kit-bashing my LGB standard gauge mike into a narrow gauge and was just wundrin if, besides those listed, if any western rr had any.
There were a whole bunch of standard gauge logging mikados.
All the way from the tiny Minerette to the 90 ton mikes of Rayonier.
I asked the Rev Goodson a while back when the AC Mike was on Fire Sale if he thought one could be made into the loco shown above…he didn’t think so…So I let the idea go…looks like you found it! I’ll be interested in seeing what you come up with, I really like a Mike, esp when I can go ride on one during the Summer…even in the rain!
cale
Cale–That one’s inside frame. The White Pass as well as Uintah had both inside and outside frame mikados. The one in that photo, ex. WP&Y 190, had 48" drivers, as did all the EBT mikes. The other White Pass mikes and Sumpter Valley mikes had 44" drivers. The Uintah #40 had 42" drivers. (Uintah #40 was originally built as New York & Bermudez #10, but I don’t know if it was ever delivered.)
I don’t know what the LGB drivers measure, but I do know they’re too small for a 48" driver in 1:20.3. I’d think that one of the Sumpter Valley mikes or the Uintah mike would be easy enough to do from the LGB mike.
Here’s the SV loco:
http://drgw.free.fr/SV/Steam/SV-02-141_en.htm
None of the Colorado railroads had inside frame mikados.
Later,
K
Kevin Strong said:
I don't know what the LGB drivers measure, but I do know they're too small for a 48" driver in 1:20.3. I'd think that one of the Sumpter Valley mikes or the Uintah mike would be easy enough to do from the LGB mike.Here’s the SV loco:
http://drgw.free.fr/SV/Steam/SV-02-141_en.htmNone of the Colorado railroads had inside frame mikados.
Later,
K
Kevin - the Aster/LGB White Pass mike has wheels that measure 55mm over the treads - that’s 48" in 1/22.5, or 43.2" in 1/20.3.
I have to go lie down now - all this calculation without a calculator makes me dizzy…
As for other NG mikes, I think you’ll find that the Newfoundland Railway also ran mikes, on the British Cape gauge of 3ft 6in. Some of the rolling stock was converted to a narrower gauge (914 mm, 36 inches) and sold to the White Pass railway. Gravel cars used by WP&YR are still painted in CN orange; unconfirmed information indicates that some Newfoundland passenger cars were converted into passenger cars of vintage appearance for WP&YR.
Note also that the Newfie mikes had 48" drivers, so the wheels of the Aster/LGB mike are actually the correct diameter for it, although incorrect for the White Pass mike which had 44" drivers.
Best plan. AFAICS, is to get ahold of an unwanted Aster/LGB White Pass mike and do a swift repaint job - it’s not a million miles away from being spot on!!!
Steve F - I’ve sent you a couple of pics of the Newfie mike…perhaps you can forward them to the OP?
tac
www.ovgrs.org
PS - a couple of us here, John Bouck and me, we have the Aster/LGB mike - I’m sure either of us would be happy to make dimensioned images for anybody wishing to convert the odd-scale LGB mike.
…PS - a couple of us here, Steve F and me, we have the Aster/LGB mike - I’m sure either of us would be happy to make dimensioned images for anybody wishing to convert the odd-scale LGB mike…
Hey, I gots one too!
I didn’t know Steve F had one.
Steve,
How do you drop the drive unit out of it?
I’m trying to batt/rc mine and I can’t figger it out.
John Bouck said:
............PS - a couple of us here, Steve F and me, we have the Aster/LGB mike - I'm sure either of us would be happy to make dimensioned images for anybody wishing to convert the odd-scale LGB mike................Hey, I gots one too!
I didn’t know Steve F had one.Steve,
How do you drop the drive unit out of it?
I’m trying to batt/rc mine and I can’t figger it out.
Sorry, I gots the Aristo Mike. That other feller with the Steve name has the LGB mike. You can tlak to him…
Kevin, I’m not here to argue your point but it appears to me that the frame is behind the drivers in this photo…does that not make it an outside frame?
(http://www.lscdata.com/users/cale_nelson/Tweetsie%20190/Tweetmike.jpg)
That said, I’m not nearly in the know as most everyone here on this board when it comes to proto and “real” trains…most of my education thus far has been from minds like yours on this and other fora…so help me if you can (John sorry for the Hijack) understand why #190 is an Inside Frame. Thanks cale
ok, it’s early…but after looking at my above post again, along with Kevins…lemmie see…the terminology is in relation to the Frame…Not the Drivers!-Right? if the Drivers are on the Outside, the Loco is considered an Inside Frame? Did I just learn something…??? all by myself?
cale
C. Nelson said:
ok, it's early...but after looking at my above post again, along with Kevins...lemmie see....the terminology is in relation to the Frame...Not the Drivers!-Right? if the Drivers are on the Outside, the Loco is considered an Inside Frame? Did I just learn something....?????? all by myself?cale
Yup. If the frame in INSIDE the drivers, then it’s an INSIDE frame - if the frame is OUTSIDE the drivers, and there are counterweights on the extended axle ends - like all the Colorado locos, then it’s an OUTSIDE frame…simple, eh?
tac
www.ovgrs.org
keep this up and I’ll figure out what a crosshead and superheater are!
thanks TAC!
cale
Just as an aside…I got an ARISTO 2-8-2 that I intended to make a WV&K NG 2-8-2 out of…