Large Scale Central

More explorations in Jurassic Park

General Discussion
#1

Some of you may recall the specific and pointed DEMANDS that nmra color codes be adopted throughout.
Stanley assured us that the color codes were.
They are not.
Of the colors of the 13 wires from engine to tender, exactly three match the colors in the tender to the Ames Super Socket.
Three.

Let’s start at the motor.
Those are red and black (wrong, but as supplied by Pittman).
From the bottom firebox board, the are black and green. When they jumper through the upper firebox board, they become orange and gray, which is correct. However, in the tender, going to M+ and J1-3, they are orange and tan (or brown).The headlight control, J1-4, starts at the board as tan (or brown), becomes orange at the tender plug, and when it comes out of the end of the upper firebox board, it is black.
I have the full schematic. Took some time to draw. And, I would be willing to bet that the next unit’s colors are different.
How are we to work on these when the colors are that messed up?

Oh, and if you unplug the two plugs on the upper firebox board that have 14 wires to the smokebox board, you lose your flicker.
I have figured out what they did, and know which two pins to jumper.
I am NOT happy to have a forced-to-use protocol where hidden “safeties” are in place to preven us from doing what we want.

I fall back on my original, it is cut and throw.
Fortunately, they provided enough redundant wiring between engine and tender, I can drive the flicker from a Sierra and be quite happy.
Even have a “smart” flicker.

#2

I’m interested to see Ames response.

Andre’

#3

Since Mr Ames got caught out publicly telling a “porky” in a chat last week in front of multiple witnesses, he has been strangely quiet about all sorts of things.

Wounded animals are not predictable.

BTW. There is not truth to the rumour that I really am the Devil incarnate.

…and now we have T-Rex.

If I was Mr Ames.
I’d be afraid.
Very afraid.

#4

Noun: porky
Usage: Brit

A trivial lie

  • fib, story, tale, tarradiddle, taradiddle, porky pie [Brit]
#5

Jon.

To give you an idea of what I define as a “porky”.
I am feeling a bit sorry for Stanley at the moment.
Currently he must be going through all sorts of heartache watching his carefully laid plans to “control” the type design and implementation of electronics in Large Scale locos, fall down around him.

Maybe I should have used a term that meant a bit more than trivial.

The problem with telling lies is you must have an incredibly good memory, or you write things down, to recall what you did or did not say that was true or untrue.
Either that you have to be a past master of obfuscation.
Now Stanley certainly is the latter.
Evidence of that is his attempt in the last day or so, to have an each way bet on the loose counterweight issue.
Recently he posted:
“he sort of knew but wasn’t sure. Then slowly came to the realisation it was true”.
A pretty poor attempt at squaring off what he did say on the chat in question.
Which was. "There was no problem with loose counterweights. Then, two minutes later saying, he had known about the problem all along’.

See what I mean???

It is much simpler to go through life telling the truth.

#6

Occurs to me, that the term “lose cannon on deck” applies here.
TOC might appreciate that phrase.

#7
TonyWalsham said:
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See what I mean???

It is much simpler to go through life telling the truth.


Tony,

But you need to sugar-coat it, otherwise they hate your guts and call you names. :wink: :slight_smile: :wink:

#8

Guess whose guts are hated and who is being called names right at this minute?

#9

An unfortunate fact of life is that the ‘whistle blower’ always gets treated like a criminal for simply revealing the ‘truth’. It is considered OK to ‘hide the truth’, as long as one is not caught in the act, or hopefully for him, he is able to shift the blame elsewhere.

#10

I forgot to add this gem:

“I know you believe you understand what you think I said. But I am not sure you realise that what you heard is not what I meant.”

BTW, I got it from Matthew Brown.

It is an absolutely brilliant example of the art of obfuscation.

#11
Curmudgeon said:
Guess whose guts are hated and who is being called names right at this minute?
Dave,

You have broad shoulders, so there’s no problem! Are you home tonight? :wink:

#12
TonyWalsham said:
I forgot to add this gem:

“I know you believe you understand what you think I said. But I am not sure you realise that what you heard is not what I meant.”

BTW, I did not author it.

It is an absolutely brilliant example of the art of obfuscation.


Tony,

Your Avatar is brilliant! :lol: :lol: :lol:

#13

Yes.

#14

"An unfortunate fact of life is that the ‘whistle blower’ always gets treated like a criminal for simply revealing the ‘truth’. "

A person never has to apologize for the truth.

“Okay boss, I’ll go apologize if you want me to, but I’m not sure that is going to sit well when I say - I’m really sorry that you are that stupid”

Sometimes its best to just smile.