Does anyone know if the 2-6-0 was ever used as a logging engine? I have a mogul and have recently acquired a number of log carriers. I would “like” to be prototypical-ish. Ideally, a yes answer would keep annoying rivet counters in their place if I could cite at least one instance.
thanks
I found a reference for you in the article link here…
“Also, due to their size, 2-6-0s became popular not only shortlines mentioned above but also logging lines and in some narrow-gauge operations.”
http://www.american-rails.com/moguls.html
Mark; It is true that the 2-6-0 wheel arrangement locomotives were often used, but Most small logging operations, if they were looking for rod type motive power, would be looking for locomotives with pony or trailing trucks. The reason for the leading (Pony) trucks and the trailing trucks, was to better lead the drivers into curves and other track configurations. Often the “Cheapo” loggers didn’t want to spend money on turning facilities, so the Moguls were then forced to run in reverse without the trailing truck. More popular were the 2-6-2 locomotives, and even 2-8-2’s…but the smaller operations stayed with “Critters” like 0-4-0’s and anything you can imagine…
From what I have seen, on the bigger shows, the rod locomotives were used more for the long hauls on the main stem, while the temporary trackage was blessed with the “Critters”.
Then of course we get into the geared locomotives, that were slower, but could negotiate just about the worst of trackage’
I realize, I gave you more suggestions than you asked for, and I’m NOT an expert on the logging railroads, but there is lots of history out there through Google, that can give you ideas and facts. Others will jump in and help, I’m sure.
Fred Mills
Mark,
The Bartlett and Albany logging railroad in New Hampshire used a nice little 2-6-0 as their only engine. It was stored in the P&O (Maine Central) roundhouse in Bartlett with 3 or 4 other mainline moguls and americans. The B&A was particularly tough logging territory as the rail line went up and over a good sized mountain. It was difficult to set up loaded trains that were safe going both up and down steep trackwork.
Although the mogul has only pilot wheels and drivers, I’ve heard that the tender offered some steering guidance for the drive wheels when reversing.
I believe logging railroads that dealt with flat terrain used the Mogul as well as the 4-4-0. Remember when it came to logging railroads they used whatever they had on hand. I use my mogul for logs although it looks better with some coaches.
Yeah pictures are proof. Build away. Of course you could bash it and add a trailing truck. That would be fun.
An emphatic yes. The Little River RR and logging company used a Mogul early on in their history.
In fact, it was their second locomotive on the line.
As the loggers got higher in the mountains, as others here have pointed out, the logging outfits increasingly relied on geared motive power to handle the grades and tight curves where rod locomotives feared to tread.
In fact I keep scouring evilbay to find an inexpensive and useable 2-6-0 that I would love to deck out in LRRR livery.
Doc Tom
In Marietta, GA, there is a tiny Mogul that saw logging service. The drivers are only about 24" and the cab floor is waist high. But it is a Mogul and it did pull logs. It was built by Glover in Marietta.
Bill Ness said:
In Marietta, GA, there is a tiny Mogul that saw logging service. The drivers are only about 24" and the cab floor is waist high. But it is a Mogul and it did pull logs. It was built by Glover in Marietta.
Very nice. Glover Machine Works made some very nice little locomotives that saw service down south in Dixie and I think even exported to South America??
A friend of mine likes to talk about all the wooden masters for steam locomotive parts that remained after Glover closed its locomotive shops.
Doc Tom
Lots of moguls were used in logging the Lake Tahoe area.
Yup. There’s a prototype for everything. (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-laughing.gif)
Oh Crap I forgot. The Coeur d’Alene Railway and Navigation Company #1 was sold to the Mason and Oceana. From there it was sold to company called Sterns & Culver which was a logging company in L’Anse MI. A certain Henry Ford bought said logging company. The CR&N #1 was a Grant Mogul. Wish I had a pic of that
Tom Grabenstein said:
An emphatic yes. The Little River RR and logging company used a Mogul early on in their history.
In fact, it was their second locomotive on the line.
As the loggers got higher in the mountains, as others here have pointed out, the logging outfits increasingly relied on geared motive power to handle the grades and tight curves where rod locomotives feared to tread.
In fact I keep scouring evilbay to find an inexpensive and useable 2-6-0 that I would love to deck out in LRRR livery.
Doc Tom
With a little work a Bachmann 10 wheeler can make a fine mogul…(http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)
Steve Featherkile said:
Yup. There’s a prototype for everything. (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-laughing.gif)
OK so has there ever been a Mallet used for a logging RR …HMMMMM remember it didn’t happen if you don’t have pictures.(http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-tongue-out.gif)
Sadly I am sure a Mallet somewhere pulled a load of logs at sometime.
Here ya go, from Potlatch, ID.
Weyerhauser 108 was built as Potlatch Forest Products #24. I love that stack.
LOL that’s what I get for calling you out Steve I should know better. And it is even local.
Shut up young grasshopper lest you make a fool of yourself.
Thats a cool loco so many things going on. Compound articulated, saddle tank… its cool.
In response to your first question.
One example
http://www.trainweb.org/mccloudrails/LocoImages/Loco-1.html
As for Mallet’s and logging check out this site.
http://loggingmallets.railfan.net/
Rick
Tom Grabenstein said:
An emphatic yes. The Little River RR and logging company used a Mogul early on in their history.
In fact, it was their second locomotive on the line.
As the loggers got higher in the mountains, as others here have pointed out, the logging outfits increasingly relied on geared motive power to handle the grades and tight curves where rod locomotives feared to tread.
In fact I keep scouring evilbay to find an inexpensive and useable 2-6-0 that I would love to deck out in LRRR livery.
Doc Tom
Hiya Doc…how’s life since the Challenge??? I think I might have a 2-6-0 I’m not using; would you like me to check and see? I have no idea what they go for, but I’m sure we could agree on something.
John Passaro said:
Hiya Doc…how’s life since the Challenge??? I think I might have a 2-6-0 I’m not using; would you like me to check and see? I have no idea what they go for, but I’m sure we could agree on something.
Hi John,
Thanks for this info. I do miss all that creativity that was unleashed in last year’s Challenge. "Twas a lot of fun.
A PM sent to you regarding a possible Mogul transfer.
Doc Tom
