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Mik's Challenge 2015 Bob C.

Bill Ness said:

Bob, I understand your disappointment with the decals, but I think they are fine. No, they didn’t all come out perfect, but they came out well enough to get the idea across. Particularly if you have time to weather the barrels a litte.

You mentioned how tiring it is to drill all those holes with a pin vise. I have used my 3/8" variable speed drill with tiny bits and it worked fine. Of course, the chuck has to be one that can grip small bits. I suggest you try it sometime.

Congratulations on a fine build.

Bill Ness

Or look for a small chuck that fits in a cordless screwdriver. I’d tell ya where to get one, but I can’t remember where I got mine. MicroMark, maybe?

I’ve even used a pinvise in variable speed drill, it’s a bit awkward but it works.

You might also be able to chuck the pinvise in the drill then you can use any size bits. Just keep à steady hand on the drill.

I have one of those small drill chucks that fits my B&D cordless screwdriver, it is a LIFESAVER. I would HIGHLY recommended one combined with even the cheapest of power screwdriver will make your modeling much easier.

They are usually easy to find on Ebay

I have been wondering about how to power tiny drill bits. When i do my sewing pin rivets it gets old fast. I was wondering about different collets for my dremel. I have several sizes but have never tried to see what bits it will hold. Would work great with one of the dremel drill press attachments.

Vic Smith said:

I have one of those small drill chucks that fits my B&D cordless screwdriver, it is a LIFESAVER. I would HIGHLY recommended one combined with even the cheapest of power screwdriver will make your modeling much easier.

They are usually easy to find on Ebay

Yup, them be the ones…(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

Not a lot of progress this evenin, but here it is. Finished the barrels - ACC’d the the nails into the bands, two coats of matte finish and installed the keg taps. Also go a coat of matte on the painted surfaces of the car body (masked off the top of the deck, wanted to keep it natural). Re-installed the couplers and trucks. Took the pic sitting on a 12" piece of LGB track for appearance sake. I may make the deadline yet.

Tomorrow evening is travel to Pensacola to visit my daughter and family. Daughter won a ‘Ride along / drive’ event at the Five Flags Speedway on Saturday morning. Wouldn’t miss her doing that for the world. Might get home Saturday evenig early enough to do some work on the barrel cribbing. If not, Sunday is going to be a busy day.

Thanks for viewing.

Picking up the final night of the build, the boys in the shops built some cribing to locate and stabilize the Holy Water barrels. The rounded notches for the barrels were made using a half round file angled about 15-30 degrees.

These were assemblye together with some cross braces to create a frame to mount to the car. Titebond II did fine for the construction here.

Next I drilled .028 holes in the cross members for jewelry eyes as anchor points for the binding chain to retain the barrels. These holes were enlarged on the bottom of the cross member to allow for a spot of thick ACC. (Sorry for the picture quality.) The elelets and chain were on hand from a logging project (still in process somewhere in the shop). The barrels were attached to the cribbing with thick ACC, then the chains were fit over the barrels and eyelets were ACC’d to the cross member.

The rubber bands were used to hold the barrels in place while the thick ACC set up and allow me to continue to move forward adding the chains. The eyelet extensions were then trimmed off the bottom of the cribbing.

The last item was to locate the cribbing and barrels on the car. Following are some shots of the completed car.

Well folks, the build is finally over, and the shops have delivered a fantastic Holy Water delivery vehicle for Fred’s Distillery. She is a six kegger design which should keep a crew happy for several days.

This was a fun and challenging build. Dave’s base kit was superb. Athought my hardboard part wasn’t quite perfect, it was easily replaced with center sills. Otherwise the fit was great and an easy kit to assembly. Dave’s extra effort on his instructions were fantastic. I had several interesting challenges, starting off with the barrels themselves, made from caster wheels from an old bed frame. The ‘heads’ of the barresl were made from ABS plastic recovered from work space shelf units thrown away by my wife’s former employer. All the other wooden bits were of in house source.

The car color was chosed from left over craft paint from a project with one of my grandsons. He got to choose the paint for his project and I chose the Apple Green in honor of a former member. The barrels color was chosen from a wall of craft paints at Hobby Lobby.

Decals are home printed on Testors decal paper on my Epson printer. To my surprise the printer even had a paper setting to print the 1/2 sheet (5.5 x 8.5) decal paper. Saved me a bunch of headache. To keep compatibility with the Distillery’s other equipment the car is fitted with Kadee #1 couplers, a first for me. The trucks are USAT arch bar truck frames fitted with Bachmann 24mm wheel sets (in stock). This made coupler height adjustment a non issre.

Chains holding barrels are jewelry materials found at Michaels or Hobby Lobby.

Costing purchased for this build is as follows:

4.00 Microset Decal Solution
4.00 Microsol Decal Solution
7.00 Kadee 820 #1 Coupler
6.00 Paint for Barrels
2.00 One sheet decal paper
2.50 One half roll 1/8" wide pin striping tape

Racked and ready for enjoyment! Very nice Bob. I think the colors go well together and the chains look great. Wish I were closer to turn the tap!

Very nice! It might get to be a bit tough to round up a sober train crew until those barrels are empty!

Those castors made perfect barrels. Good find and better reporpose!

Well, we did in fact round up a sober and willing train crew. They picked up the loaded Holy Wate car and headed south to the Emerald Coast Garden Railway club to deliver the highest quality Holy Water available to the local Hofbrau. The owner was on hand to receive the delivery.

That is a neat looking car Bob and it looks right at home on your RR.

How long until the game Holy Rollers is invented?

I agree it looks at home.

John

Very nice. Even looks like it will be able to survive a trip north to Canada if it needs too. But that reminds me, I didn’t see a pocket with a Pass-a-Port in it.

Yup. Agreeing with Todd here; it’s good looks do fit right in with the rest of your railroad, and oh boy, will that car be welcome in Ottawa, or Toronto too, or Belleville as well for that matter! (Of course, so will you, Bob…)

Unfortunately John, I don’t have a Passprot, and see no reason to invest in one at this time. I do plan on ‘shipping’ the car up to the Invasion via one of our members willing to take it with them. The next project is to make a ‘shipping container’ fo suit.

Well, the challenge might be over, but the building continues. I am going to complete the car in the vision I had at the outset but ran out of time to complete. One item that I didn’t get done was painting/weathering the wheel sets. Spend some time and masked off and painted the wheels using the ‘Patent Pending’ Radder/Chandler (cause I can’t remember which one described it) of overlaying two different shades of ‘rust’ for the look.

And assembled back into the trucks…

In my haste during the build I discovered that I had used a No. 8-32 insert in the bolsters for the truck mounting screws. The USA trucks have a 1/4 inch mounting hole for the king pin. To resolve this issue I added a short piece of ABS plastic tubing I had left over from a commercial modeling project from many years ago. After securing it in place with an interference fit and some MEK, I drilled out the 1/8 inch hole in the center to a .176 diameter clearance hole for a No 8 screw. To make the trucks turn easier I picked up two nylon washers at my local West Marine (and they gave them to me, what a surprise - with a promise to return for my next need).

Will be adding more details as I get them completed.

Now that the family gathering has gone home, i am making a little more progress on completing the Holy Water car to my original plans. First up I made a single needle beam. The car is too short to have two, and two would interfere with the operation of the trucks.

Next I fabricated four queen posts from a 1/16" dia. x 1" long cotter pin, a short piece of 1/16" id brass tubing and a small ferrule. Painted them a dark rusty brown and they look pretty convincing.

Last thing I did tonight was to dig out and paint some NBW casting for the end beams.

That’s it for now…

Nice work. I like the queens posts can’t wait to see how you work them in

Devon, here is the last installment. As Devon requested here are the final details. I installed the needle beam on the center line of the car and fed the truss rods through the queen posts.

I also fabricated a set of mounts for the brake staff and wheel. The top bracket is a piece of brass flat bar with a plastic ratchet and pawl I picked from eBay a year or two ago, along with the NBW casting used. The lower bracket is another piece of the same flat bar. After I had it installed I realized I had twisted the verticals the same way…oh well. The brake staff is a piece of the same steel rod I used for the truss rods (aka survey flags). The brake wheel is also a plastic piece from the same purchase as the ratchet and pawl, and NBWs.

And the final pic of the build.

That’s All Folks!

Came out very nice Bob. I like the detail thanks for the close ups