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Mesa Arizona Protest

At the Mesa AZ protest, KFYI listeners brought signs telling Santa Obama what they wanted from the savior-based economy. Hats off to KFYI’s Bruce Jacobs and J.D. Hayworth. Reader Al Swanson sent these priceless pics:

(PS: See why the Media couldn’t show this on national TV? It would leak out what working folks really think of the stimulus lies. Let’s do the Media’s job for them-again-and pass it on. Be reassured that we are not alone—our friends & neighbors smell Rats too.)

I did see some of the similar protests on TV.
They seem to be for the most part an anti Obama protest.
Bush and his people started bailing out the banks and AIG.
Republican and Democratic Senators and Congressman voted for it. Despite the public being 99-1 against.
Where were the organizers for the Tea Party when we were handing out the cash to the banks?
Maybe they were too busy running for re-election at the time.
I guess I’ll be protesting alone until I can find someone who understands this is not a Republican/ Democrat issue.
They all screwed us.
Ralph

Bingo Ralph. This has nothing to do with what’s actually happening and everything to do with tired partisan politics.

In two years, if the economy is booming–who knows? not me–I’m pretty sure we will be seeing exactly the same stuff.

The media is in the tank for certain. Until the liberals shut down talk radio and censor the internet (more than they are, i.e. Wikipedia posts deleted) we can still find the truth.

Mike,

I thought you were in favor of the all giving, all powerful government? You wanted “change”, you got “change”, now none of us even have “change”. How about another stimulous package? I don’t think I can handle being much more stimulated than I am.

That would depend on what the stimulation was and who was administering it. :wink:

Bill had his own stimulation package happening back in the 1990’s in the oval office. At the time it was a very cheap package, but ten years later he is still paying for it.

Ric, what exactly has been the negative impact of Obama’s stimulus package on you so far? Not hypothetically, but in real life so far? You are enjoying a comfortable retirement. What exaclty is the hardship? It’s a serious question–you seem really angry about it.

The stock market collapse happened before he was president. Have your taxes gone up? I don’t know, but the odds are overwhelmingly no. In fact, if you read his stimulus plan, it probably gives you a tax cut. What exactly is the harm that’s been done to you? I mean the real actual harm, not the hypothetical harm.

You keep saying “had enough change yet?” And I keep thinking well no actually, I haven’t seen any change yet. I’m not sure exactly what you are so worked up about.

Mike,
as stated, the hype is mere political bias. People across the United States are asking for a job and other necessities of life, like a roof over their heads and these ingrats are asking for plasma televisions and Lexus cars. Unless something really drastic happened since late January to the economy, then the current condition is a hangover from past policies, although half the population refuse to believe that. On the day Obama took office the whole financial system of the country must have mysteriously collapsed. Obama though will take the blame as he is a gentleman and will endeavour to bring the country out of recession.

    Our opposition is also at loggerheads with our government,  likewise accusing them of destroying our economy.  It is a pity that when the economy is on its knees that opposition parties still milk the situation for their own political gain.  Rather than helping to stimulate the nation,  they attempt to divide and conquer.  Let us hope that in a few years time,  the people affected will have a conscience and remember those responsible for their current financial crisis.  One term is not going to be enough to turn the economy around and halve the budgetary deficit.

The best people we have in the Senate and House voted against both the “bailout” and “stimulus”. They stuck with their principles through both bills.
The worst people we have in the Senate and House voted for the “bailout” and against the “stimulus”. They have selective principles.
Ralph

Tim Brien said:
Mike, as stated, the hype is mere political bias. People across the United States are asking for a job and other necessities of life, like a roof over their heads and these ingrats are asking for plasma televisions and Lexus cars. Unless something really drastic happened since late January to the economy, then the current condition is a hangover from past policies, although half the population refuse to believe that. On the day Obama took office the whole financial system of the country must have mysteriously collapsed. [b]Obama though will take the blame as he is a gentleman and will endeavour to bring the country out of recession. WHAT? You must be kidding.[/b]
    Our opposition is also at loggerheads with our government,  likewise accusing them of destroying our economy.  It is a pity that when the economy is on its knees that opposition parties still milk the situation for their own political gain.  Rather than helping to stimulate the nation,  they attempt to divide and conquer.  Let us hope that in a few years time,  the people affected will have a conscience and remember those responsible for their current financial crisis.  One term is not going to be enough to turn the economy around and halve the budgetary deficit.</blockquote>

The Republicans lost in 2008, POTUS and Congressional seats because they were unhappy about the liberal direction of the GOP. McCain is a RINO and there wasn’t a hill-of-beans difference between the two candidates.

It is not OUR governments responsibility to GIVE Americans jobs, and other necessities of life, or plasma TVs and cars.

I got, how about the government give us all free food. It is a necessity of life, for sure. We can pay more taxes and just go to the grocery store whenever we want and get whatever we want for free. That’s certainly more important than free Botox shots, or a free sex-change operation for Tim.

…or a brain transplant for David.:wink:

Tony,
a transplant implies there is something there originally.

David,
lived with women all my life. No thanks, I do not want their crap. Maybe you could get a new job as a sheepdog, although your little package would be on show.

David Hill said:
It is not OUR governments responsibility to GIVE Americans jobs, and other necessities of life, or plasma TVs and cars.
David, just remember where all this started. A redeeming feature of a Democrat gonernment is 'government By the people, For the people." Your buddies, back over the last eight years, forgot what they were in office for.
Tim Brien said:
David Hill said:
It is not OUR governments responsibility to GIVE Americans jobs, and other necessities of life, or plasma TVs and cars.
David, just remember where all this started. A redeeming feature of a Democrat gonernment is 'government By the people, For the people." Your buddies, back over the last eight years, forgot what they were in office for.
Well finally we agree on something.

Some change…

Your income taxes are normally due on April 15th unless that date falls on a Saturday
or Sunday in which case they’re due Monday the 16th or 17th.

However, I have been told that a recent change and for the next 4 years, they will not be due until you
are nominated to a cabinet position.

Please check with your tax adviser to confirm.

That’s funny, it it wasn’t so true.

Remember the Alamo.

Geithner seemed blissfully unwilling to acknowledge how unworkable the Obama budget is, telling the panel: “We share more in common than you believe.” Gregg was having none of it. Responding to Geithner’s assertion that Obama’s budget would cut taxes for 95% of Americans, Gregg replied: “The argument that this budget doesn’t have tax increases is, I think, an Alice in Wonderland view of the budget.” Perhaps it is time for Geithner to come out of his rabbit hole.

Gregg’s tongue lashing should not have come as any surprise. Gregg took to the pages of yesterday’s Washington Times writing:

"The budget the Obama administration has presented to the American people is a new type of budget: it expands our government in unprecedented ways and presents the largest tax increase in history. It raises total spending to $3.9 trillion in 2009, or 28 percent of gross domestic product, the highest level as a share of GDP since World War II.

In the next five years, the debt will double, and in 10 years, it will triple. This budget creates more debt than under every president from George Washington to George W. Bush combined … the Obama administration’s proposal is not a budget that the rest of America would recognize as a document for living within one’s means. It simply spends too much, taxes too much and borrows too much. It is a game plan for an explosive expansion of the size and intrusiveness of the national government based on a belief that bureaucrats can more effectively manage large segments of our economy and our daily lives than the private sector or the individual."

He’s absolutely right that the Obama budget increases spending–absolutely right. He’s wrong that it represents a huge or unprecedented tax increase.

The theory here–and I’m posting this neutrally–is that you need massive federal spending to stave off a depression. Think about WWII. The economy was booming. And government sending was the entire reason. The government was buying steel, tanks, cars, food, cloth, electric wire, coal, oil, chemicals for gunpowder, rubber, glass: material to supply an Army of 16 million people AND their allies. And what was happening to the stuff the gvt. bought? It was getting worn out and destroyed, so the govt. bought more. How many civilians worked on defense contracts in WWII? Directly or indirectly, nearly every American in WWI was living on govt. sending. In modern dollars, I think the govt. spent 15 trillion on WWII (I may have that wrong, it’s just from memory: I know it’s more than 7 trillion.) What does a trillion look like?

Within five years after WWII that debt was gone–vanished in a spurt of unprecedented peacetime economic growth.

The theory is that a massive increase in spending is needed to restart an economy brought to ruin by excessive lending in the last decade. Blame that on whoever you like: it’s a real fact. Citibank announced yesterday that it does not need any more bailout money: the stock market rose by 7% Maybe the plan (begun under Paulsen and Bush) is working?

I dont beleive this, Bush and his party croonies get carte blanche power for 6 years, 8 years later they’ve totally wreck the economy, get tossed out on their ears, the new president hasnt even had a chance to get settled in (3 months and all is supposed to be better?) before having to confront the biggest economic trainwrecks since the great depression (Dubyas real legacy), so he’s trying to pick up the peices where the Shrub dropped it (the “stimulus’s” were started by Shrub BTW, remember Wall St, the tip of the real Dubya legacy), and the stupidheaded republicans like the morons in the article are already beginning trying the “blame the president” game. Jezzuzz…revisionism at its most hyypocritical,

… but ya know, the more these whinny crybaby extreme idiot nutjobs cry, the more they continue in the eyes of the nation to 20% their party right into marginal obsurity where they belong. Where were there protests when the Repub’s were in power “outsourcing” there jobs to vietnam? when the standard of living for middle class folks fell more than ever, when healthcare cost skyrocketed more than anytime in history bankrupting families across the nation, where were their protests when Bush burned billions of there dollars, killed their children, and added towering debt when he had “Iraqnophobia” all while Osama was still giving us the finger safely in pakistan.

Pleaasse…

Go worship Jabba-the-Rush and please do continue at all costs to marginallize yourselfs right out of power as the party of do-nothings far right wing religious nutcases and let the people in charge to try and DO something to fix the problems YOUR party created, which is more than Dubya and his idiot beleivers/worshippers ever did.

Maybe we SHOULD follow their advice and DO NOTHING, and let decades of economic depression, 50% or more unemployment, a social power structure reduced to a very few ultra wealthy corporations and the rest of the population reduced to serfdom, just the thing to turn the greatest country on earth into western Somalia, so they can attempt to impose a christain teliban on the rest of us, which I really do beleive is the ultimate goal of the far right, anyone remember the militant tone of born-again psychochristian rhetoric right before the Oklahoma City bombing? I sure do. Their still a major chunk of the 20% party.