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Making an "annie" look more like standard gauge

Tim Brien said:
Kevin, yes it is my opinion, but considering the number of purists in standard gauge and considering the documented cases of modellors saying that they are going to do it, the fact is that few have succeeded.
But I think the underlying question is [i]why[/i] haven't they succeeded? It's not because the concept is impractical--we both agree that it is (though I suggest it's less work than you believe necessary). No, I think the reason we've not seen more is simply because taking that first step is daunting enough, regardless of how much work is involved. Folks would rather work on other projects, and place rebuilding a steam locomotive on the back burner--where it stays. We've all got projects we've "said" we're going to do that never get done. In most cases, we don't even have a reason for not doing them.

Later,

K

Kevin Strong said:
Folks would rather work on other projects, and place rebuilding a steam locomotive on the back burner–where it stays. We’ve all got projects we’ve “said” we’re going to do that never get done. In most cases, we don’t even have a reason for not doing them.

You mean like those three locos sitting in a box in my basement!

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Actually, my smaller scale stuff got side lined by some 7/8’s projects. I was working on one last night. There’s always a “new kid on the block” project to work on. -Brian

There’s always a “new kid on the block” project to work on…

Or Diapers to change! #4 due here in less than 8 weeks!..

Here are some old Black & white photos of a ten wheeler like Bachmanns , with what looks like a more modern , LGB tender , amazing that it looks so close to them . steam powered freight on a interurban line in Indiana , somewhere .

(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/DennisPaulson/BachandLGB%20tender/Bmann%20and%20LGB%20tender%20NE%20curve.JPG)

(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/DennisPaulson/BachandLGB%20tender/Bachmann%20&%20tender%20Bnville.JPG)

Looks just enough different to me .

Nice shots! I’m persuaded

the tender is a bigger “changer” than the cab…I wonder how that Slope Back from AC would look?

cale

Mike,
while you may think of the bumble bee colour scheme as ‘old westey’, in fact it did not appear until 1948/49 and was intended as an ‘exhibition’ colour scheme only. It attracted so much interest that the railroad extended its useage. Prototypically, you could run the bumble bee colour scheme with your Mikado and Pacific, bearing in mind that the timeframe is correct but the rail gauge a little different.
I really like the yellow scheme, but since I model pre-1949, I prefer the Pullman’ (?) green coach colour.

   At the end of the day,  it is always your decision on your railroad that sets the rules.  If you like an Annie in a standard-gauge roadname then that is the end of discussion (for you).  At present,  I am revisitting a previously built loco that I finished several years ago, but never liked the finished look.  I recently decided to rebuild it more to my liking,  but am hampered by the original chassis setup.  Even though my loco is a freelanced model that never existed,  I am getting criticisms that it is technically incorrect.  I thoroughly agree with the criticism and was aware of the design shortcomings when I originally built it.  However,  the loco design never existed and thus any criticism, based on existing models,  is really irrelevant.   


  If you freelance a standard gauge 4-6-0 then it is not really open to criticism.  However,  if you say that it is a model of a particular prototype then you leave yourself open for technical criticism.   I recently converted an Annie to a narrow-gauge consiolidation camelback.  No loco existed but I liked the prototype loco design and adapted the design to a narrow-gauge look.  End result was a believable,  but definately narrow-gauge appearance.  The only loco design that I have done that I would consider a believable standard gauge is my Pacific version.  The taper boiler design suits it to a tee and makes for a very well balanced loco design.

Thanks Tim–I had not known that. I run the thing as an imaginary excursion line to explain the difference between it and my other trains, which are 1:29 for the most part. So I’m glad to hear it’s reasonably prototypical

Ran across this mogul -

(http://www.state.sc.us/forest/hlb16.jpg)

on this page of an eclectic mix of logging locos - http://www.state.sc.us/forest/scloco.htm Mike, If you down the page about 2/3’s of the page, there’s a little 0-4-4 that once belonged to the Great Falls & Old Dominion (later incorporated in the W&OD). Though I’m not sure what they did with a little steamer on an electric line. -Brian

Haven’t posted here in quite a while, but I’ve been lurking. Way back in 2008(!!!) I started this thread about how to make Bachmann “annie” look more “standard gauge.” I finally got around to doing something about it:

(http://chnm.gmu.edu/courses/magic/westover/annie/progress21a.jpg)

(http://chnm.gmu.edu/courses/magic/westover/annie/progress22.jpg)

(http://chnm.gmu.edu/courses/magic/westover/annie/progress23.jpg)

The tender is a cut down aristocraft long tender with new coal boards All the advice I got back in 2008 turned out to be exactly right. It came out ok.

I think it looks great. Good job. Better late than never.

Hi Mike, welcome back! That really turned out nice. I’ve been thinking about doing something like this for a long time, myself, perhaps using a Lionel Atlantic cab, and some hungry boards on the tender. I need Washington Idaho & Montana #2 for my iteration of the WI&M.

(http://www.wimryhpg.com/Photos/websize/WI&M_TOM_KREUTZ_022.jpg)

Welcome back Mike.
You’re a much better modeler than you give yourself credit for.
That’s OK. Humility is a fine trait :wink:
Ralph

Jim Davis runs his Annie with and Aristo-Craft tender.

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Hey Mike - Welcome back :slight_smile: The Annie looks great.

Last time I saw you was at ECLSTS a number of years ago and you brought the Maker’s Mark Distillery with you. How did that turn out ?

Jon Radder said:
Hey Mike - Welcome back :) The Annie looks great.

Last time I saw you was at ECLSTS a number of years ago and you brought the Maker’s Mark Distillery with you. How did that turn out ?


Wasn’t that Brian Donovan? Also MIA :wink:
Ralph

Looks great… definately a project for the Juniata Falls Werx when time and money permits! Gotta build me one of these:

(http://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/4/8/9/9489.1241373750.jpg)

I caught this old girl one trip back to New York, Arcade & Attica No.14, a standard-gauge 4-6-0 built in 1917. The A&A boughter her from teh Escanaba & Lake Superior for excursion service in 1963 to suppliment already steaming 2-8-0 Alco-Cooke No. 18 purchased the year before.

Odd wheels on the pilot truck, solid front/spoked rear.

Jon Radder said:
Hey Mike - Welcome back :) The Annie looks great.

Last time I saw you was at ECLSTS a number of years ago and you brought the Maker’s Mark Distillery with you. How did that turn out ?


Mike is a PBS clock/timetable expert!
Looks good Mike!
:wink:

Ralph Berg said:
Jon Radder said:
Hey Mike - Welcome back :) The Annie looks great.

Last time I saw you was at ECLSTS a number of years ago and you brought the Maker’s Mark Distillery with you. How did that turn out ?


Wasn’t that Brian Donovan? Also MIA :wink:
Ralph

Oops - Brain Fart! I do believe you are correct. He’s MIA too!