I want to re-work my logging line. As of now I have three main areas - the logging area were the trees are cut. I have a spar tree and steam donkey. This siding also leads to the mine. The next area is the Hainsville yard that has the engine house, office, loading dock with a shed, general store, fueling station and water tower. This area is part of the main line and also has a passing siding and a siding to engine house. The third area is the camp were I have the camp buildings and sawmill. These are on another siding.
My question is in a logging operation where would my above buildings be. For example would the sawmill go with the engine house, loading dock and water tower and the general store in the camp area or would the camp be together with the sawmill, water tower etc… or did it really matter. I cant find anything on what would be where in a typical logging operation.
Im thinking about putting the camp and sawmill in the Hainsville yard and then the logging operations where my camp and sawmill are currently. Then that would leave the mine on its own siding and I would have two mian areas. The logging area and the camp/yard area.
Shawn, At Cass, the engine house, water tower, coal bunkers, saw mill, kilns, company store, station, and company housing, was all in one central point, pretty much… This was all at the interchange point with the “Standard Guage”" railroad, and the ““rest of the world””… All were pretty much within a quarter to half a mile of each other… It’s my only experience with a 1/1 scale working layout…
Of course, the engine house, coal bunkers, and water tower were all in a close proximity of each other… company store, Station, and company housing were all in one location… These are all on one side of the tracks, while the factory, kiln area was on the other side of the tracks, along a creek…
Shawn,
In the PNW the word “camp” usually referred to the “logging community” in the woods where the loggers lived and worked at falling trees and loading out logs.
The sawmill was usually located at/near/in a more settled or permenate community or town. Normally this is wheree the main engine facilitys were located because it was usually closer to the supply point ie. mainline railroad or main highway.
The logging camp in the woods was usually only in existance for 1 or maybe 2 seasons then moved to a new location after the old area was cut out. This is why all the buildings where on skids so they could easily be loaded onto railcars by crane or donkey and moved to the new camp site.
A couple of cavets of course.
Some logging companies had their sawmill in the woods and the lumber was shipped to a town area where the company usually had their drying yards, box factory, door and sash mill etc, again because it was close to the shipping point. A couple of good examples of this would be the LaMoine Lumber and Trading company or the Terry Lumber Company both of Northern california.
An example in the other direction is The McCloud River Lumber Company (Northern California) where a couple of their logging camps ended up becoming towns. Pondosa and White Horse became large, long time settlements but unfortunatly are pretty much just ghost towns now.
So basically,like always, there is a prototype for just about anything you want to do. If you are wanting to follow your local area practice a good place to start is the County/State Historical Society of the selected area. There are lots and lots of very good books out there on specific lumber/log operations and to a limited extent some on line information.
Have fun
Rick
Shawn; where you looking for something like this:
(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/smokevalley/_forumfiles/MVC-922S.JPG)
This is what I had done for the Convention, ideas from several books on Logging operations. Paul