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Larger trucks -- the vehicular type

Hi LSC folks,

Besides a love of narrow gauge trains, I also like road vehicles. I have never seen any larger die cast vehicles that would work for Fn3 5 and 10 ton truck modeling. Does anybody know of any “close enough” kits to make larger than pick-up trucks, that would be considered depression era (early 30’s)? I was wondering if any 1/18th or 1/20th scale Mack C Cabs or the Mack enclosed cabs were out there any place? I thought these might be adaptable to this service with a little effort. My RR is a living museum of sorts, so older vehicles would be quite appropriate.

Any help would be appreciated, so thanks in advance…

:slight_smile:

John,
I, too, am looking for a few 1:20 ish vehicles. The closest I’ve found are Hubley metal kits on e-bay.
Though there aren’t any trucks, so far.
I did a search and found about 40 of them. Here’s an example. Just enter “Hubley Kit” in toys and hobbies.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hubley-4863-Packard-Dietrich-Conv-Metal-Model-Kit_W0QQitemZ390027150005QQihZ026QQcategoryZ2581QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

JB,

I was thinking that since many early manufacturers ‘sort of’ just scaled up everything (at least in the 20’s and 30’s), from their regular pick-up to the bigger versions (say a 5 ton), that I could take the cab and front fenders from a 1/18th Model A truck and mate that to a frame and box of my own design. Proper tires and wheels are a sticking point. Maybe some 1/18th (or close) scale military ‘deuce and a half’ tires and wheels from an RC model shop, might fill the bill; if that sort of thing even exists, but I am not sure where to begin looking. I guess I need to see what the right size wheels were in real life and go from there.

:confused:

John Huey said:
JB,

I was thinking that since many early manufacturers ‘sort of’ just scaled up everything (at least in the 20’s and 30’s), from their regular pick-up to the bigger versions (say a 5 ton), that I could take the cab and front fenders from a 1/18th Model A truck and mate that to a frame and box of my own design. Proper tires and wheels are a sticking point. Maybe some 1/18th (or close) scale military ‘deuce and a half’ tires and wheels from an RC model shop, might fill the bill; if that sort of thing even exists, but I am not sure where to begin looking. I guess I need to see what the right size wheels were in real life and go from there.

:confused:


Sadly, most truck kits are 1/24th or thereabouts, and might look pretty acceptable in the background of your layout, but up front and personal would look very odd indeed. As you say, there is a marked lack of interest in producing larger scale 30’s era stuff, mainly because little or nothing happened then to spark an interest in the era, from a vehicular point of view, anyhow.

This advertisement in GR for those beautiful die-cast trucks and cars, including fire-trucks and so on - might get your interest, but they are prolly a mite too pricey for bashing, unless, of course, you are one of those US Bank presidents we hear so much about…

www.diecastdirect.com

Loadsa luck.

tac
www.ovgrs.org

Here is are some trucks I picked up (sry for the pun) at Hobby Lobby, I’ve recently seen them in Black…all metal, and a little crude. but still closer to Fn3 than what I’ve seen!

(http://www.lscdata.com/users/cale_nelson/Bridges/Bridge1.jpg)

(http://www.lscdata.com/users/cale_nelson/Rail%20Truck/comp2.jpg)

(http://www.lscdata.com/users/cale_nelson/Rail%20Truck/comp3.jpg)

(http://www.lscdata.com/users/cale_nelson/Rail%20Truck/comp4.jpg)

I’m guessing it wasn’t the Hobby Lobby in Greenville, where employees stole over one million dollars of merchandise and opened two stores of their own.
Ralph

There are some 1:19 vehicles out there…they compare favorably with the Hubley stuff

(http://www.jbrr.com/assets/images/Comparison.JPG)

Left to right - A 1:19 Ford Pickup, a 1:20 person, a 1:20 Ford, a 1:22.5 person, and a 1:24 vehicle. I used one I got off of ebay to make this truck:

(http://www.jbrr.com/assets/images/VanS.JPG)

Bruce Love that last truck.
I use to collect beer cans and had a number of the Old Frothingslosh ones. They were very funny with the Miss Frothingslosh on them.

Ralph B_rg said:
I'm guessing it wasn't the Hobby Lobby in Greenville, where employees stole over one million dollars of merchandise and opened two stores of their own. Ralph
nah, Spartanburg...funny I heard some one mention something about that the other day...I don't follow local news (or have TV for that matter), no need really...in the Salon biz everything is news!
Terry A de C Foley said:
This advertisement in GR for those beautiful die-cast trucks and cars, including fire-trucks and so on - might get your interest, but they are prolly a mite too pricey for bashing, unless, of course, you are one of those US Bank presidents we hear so much about...

www.diecastdirect.com

Loadsa luck.

tac
www.ovgrs.org


[color=darkgreen][b]Me, a bank president, don’t make me laugh, that would be my cousin who decided to follow mammon decades ago. Me I never was all that driven to make the big bucks, I just kept ploding along, working and making house payments, when all my friends were out partying it up and acting like kids. I may not have it all, but I have enough to keep me busy, and that is what counts in my book; the good Lord had a hand in all of that, let me tell ya.

I guess I will need to start looking at plastic model kits and see what I can locate in that venue. I knew I should have stayed in 1/24th scale, but when Accucraft brought out that RGS Motor No. 2, the writing was on the wall! I guess I’d rather bash a truck or two, then all thoses geese anyway. Peace, out.[/b][/color]

=D

You might want to look at something like this:

(http://carshobbies.com/main/images/95701.gif)

You can often find them on E-Bay http://cgi.ebay.com/1925-FORD-MODEL-TT-Delivery-Truck-MATCHBOX-1%3A18-New_W0QQitemZ320326805973QQcmdZViewItem Though that price seems high. At one time, I bought one for $3.25…and another for $2.25. plus shipping, of course. :wink:

That truck on the left hand side in my picture above is a Solido 1/19. As you can see, it’s a tad larger than the 1:20 stuff and could be used as a base for some other type of truck.

[color=darkgreen]Bruce, thanks, you gave me a good idea on how to improve my search methods too; I will have to get busy now and shop for bargains! Very cool old iron as well Back in the day I found a couple of 1/19th auto’s but no trucks; now I know to keep looking. Peace…[/color]

[color=darkgreen]Too bad we could not interest somebody like Accucraft into doing a proper old school truck, It might sell to more than just train guys…by the time we take a $30 cab and get proper wheels, body paint a signage, we got time and money involved in what oft time remains a basket case until proper inspiration hits. If somebody could make a 1/20th uhhh…say a ‘31 Mack, GM, or a 1934 Ford "front’, then have a couple frame changes to just bolt together, like a coal truck, dump body, box or even a flat bed, and just buy what you want and build it however you want. Even if the split the difference between 1/18th and 1/20th by doing it in 1/19th, then maybe the die cast car folks would buy them too. I don’t know, just an idea… [/color]

(http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/goudy/29le_fageol.jpg)

(http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/goudy/34gmc_dump.jpg)

(http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/goudy/atlantic_brewery_32stude.jpg)

(http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/pnwtm/mack_bulldog1.jpg)

[color=darkgreen]Yeah,stuff like this![/color]

John, Consider using some of the 1/18 car models as a starting point for a truck. After all, some of those 1940-1950 trucks had fenders like the cars did… You MAY be able to even use a 1/16 truck…it would just represent a larger vehicle…

(http://www.3000toys.com/images/HIGHWAY_61/50462.jpg)

John Huey said:

(http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/pnwtm/mack_bulldog1.jpg)

Hartland’s Mack switcher has two of these hoods you could use to kitbash. As many Macks as Vic has cut up…he might have one or two. Ralph Never mind…I see you are looking for 1:20 The Macks are 1:24.

John,

In the Nov/Dec issue of Narrow Gauge & Short Line Gazette, there is a article about Mack Trucks / Two F-Series Oldies in 1:20.3 Scale by George Konrad, MMR… These are chain drive trucks… Hope this helps…

Bob Burton said:
John,

In the Nov/Dec issue of Narrow Gauge & Short Line Gazette, there is a article about Mack Trucks / Two F-Series Oldies in 1:20.3 Scale by George Konrad, MMR… These are chain drive trucks… Hope this helps…


[color=darkgreen][b]Those Mack’s by Mr. Konrad are gorgeous, but if I were going to get that involved in a project requiring that level of skill and detail, it would also involve an element named for a planet that ain’t a planet any more (post 9/11 speak). That said, those are perfect and I wish they might become a pattern for a kit, so those of us with less talent might have a few too.

Thanks for the ideas guys…[/b][/color]

Hi guys,
I build large scale trucks from scratch and here are links to three of them.

http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=136.0

http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=188.0

http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=239.0

You can check out some more views of the trucks, and some of my other work at my flickr site:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/

Gordon Birrell

Gordon,
Very impressive.