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Kitbashing a 1:1 locomotive

For those of you who read both forums regularly, I apologize, as you’ve likely seen this before… ********** For those of you who thought chopping up a model locomotive was a big challenge, try this one out… The Valley Railroad in Essex, CT just bought the 1989 SY 2-8-2 that had been owned by the Knox and Kane. Those of you following the story will remember that this is one of two SY class locomotives that came over from China having been built new by Tang Shan in 1989; the other was originally Valley Railroad #1647 and is now Susquehana #142. A third locomotive originally intended for Susquehana was lost at sea, which is why they ultimately ended up buying the 1647 from the VRR The locomotive was heavily damaged in an enginehouse fire at Knox and Kane and will require extensive rebuilding. What they’ve decided to do is somewhat remarkable though. The locomotive will be rebuilt to resemble a New Haven Railroad class J1a, which is, or was, a 2-8-2 of approximately the same size and style. None of the NHRR steam locomotives survived the torch, so this “bash” will be numbered 3025 (the last was 3024) and will become the “last” J-1a. Plans include a rebuilt cab, and a re-outlined tender, as well as “detail parts” to make the transformation work. You can read about it at http://theenginehouse.blogspot.com/2008/11/nynh-no-3025.html and there’s a photo of where they’re going with it at

. Other than that new locomotive “scratchbuilt” in England not long ago, this may be the biggest 1:1 modelmaking project around! Life imitates art, imitates life … Matthew (OV)

I just heard this Saturday night from Lee Carslon who works at the VRR. Quite a neat story. Besides the “bashing” the loco will need complete ultrasound of the boiler and repairs to any defects made. They paid $100K for the hulk and I’d guess that they will invest at least another $250K before they are done. It’s a good thing that the Thomas and Polar Express trains are sold out :slight_smile:

And about the engine lost at sea, I think Lee told me that there were two engines lost. These would be brand new locos sitting somewhere on the bottom of the pacific. I wonder if they could be found and how much it would cost to raise them. Probably not worth the effort.

Jon,

I think htose hulks would be called “coral reefs”, if close ot the surface and quite brittle and worthless no matter what. Imagine the environmental impact study that would have to be completed.

Lee is one of my prmary sources at the VRR. I was in train service there from 1987-2001, so it’s nice to have someone to keep me up to speed on things!

Matthew (OV)

Matthew (OV) said:
Lee is one of my prmary sources at the VRR. I was in train service there from 1987-2001, so it's nice to have someone to keep me up to speed on things!

Matthew (OV)


I had some dim memory of that from conversations long ago on a site far away :slight_smile:

Looks like I’ll be going down to the VRR day after Thanksgiving. Weather permitting Lee and I will chase the train (he has the day off), get some good pictures and video. And I will at long last get my Jackson & Burke caboose that has been in transit from Ottawa for 15 months :smiley:

How fast can you drive in reverse? At least Lee is a good sport… I chased 40 with him once:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp79vO3k90U

Matthew (OV)

I think if it was me I’d hide that big pipe at the front of the boiler (front end throttle?) under a larger, part dummy, sand dome. Would make it look a LOT more Alco-ish

Here’s a real j1, as you can see, the steam dome is further back and the sand dome is MUCH bigger. http://images.lib.uconn.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/photographs&CISOPTR=392&CISOBOX=1&REC=1