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Kerosene sconce lamps, any ideas?

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#1

One of my on again, off again projects is getting to the point where I need to put in some final details. I’d like to add about 4 or so wall sconce kerosene lamps. The wiseman folks on feebay haven’t offered their spendy whitemetal ones in a while. An email sent to Botchmann about the availability of the ones they used in their long caboose wasn’t returned. I’ve seen a couple 1/24 dollhouse ones, but OUCH!

I could make the chimneys from 1/8 aquarium tube and clear beads, the kero tank from wood axle caps, and the reflectors from large sequins - as I have done before. I’m just wondering if anybody has another source, a better way, and/or a way to make those nice bell shades.

Thanks

#2

i ignore, what “sconce” is.
but if you want to make an oldfashioned kerosenelamp with one of these long glascylinders, go to your vet.

the tiny bottles with destilled water to mix medicines have “break off” cylinders. if you take one of those (sand off the top,) plus a hollow plastic button of fitting shape, inserting a grain of rice bulb from one of these x-mas light blankets they are starting to sell, you need just to weld the cables of the bulbs to the copperwires that serve as hanger.

#3

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(http://www.madmoose.com/cobaltwall.jpg)

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something like these

#4

sometime over the last 5 years there was an article in GR about this…

I’ll get’em out tomorrow and try to locate if I can…looked very easy and most convincing!

Jack Verducci may have written?

cale

#5

GR Mag August 2007 pg. 66 Bob Santos-Making Scale Bottles…prolly will shed some light on technique, but I still remember someone making lamps with Beads and Such that looked really swell…

cale

#6

yeah, Mik, these are exactly, what i was thinking about.

#7

Sconce just means they hang on the wall. Table lamps sit on things, hanging ones hang down from the ceiling - usually on a pipe or chain.
Table lamps aren’t very good on a train, they vibrate off on to the floor and start a fire.

#8

Korm - what a great post!!! Shows what you can do when there really is no option to making your own!

Please put it on the other forum, too.

I found out a useful one as well - a ‘party-popper’ is just about the exact size and shape for a caboose stove!

Best

tac
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#9

I have quite a few ‘party poppers’. They look a little like gas cylinders. I did have a gond full of them: I named it my ‘moonshine’ car.

#10

We have one of those hanging kerosene lamps with the bracket handing on the wall in our mobile. I haven’t thought about shriinking it!

#11

somewhere amonst my junk i got dozens of heads from these pharmaceutical phials.
when i saw them the first time over thirty years ago, i knew, that they were made for kerosene lamps!

herebouts we got no party poppers. only party poopers…
but i am just finishing the last of a batch of cheap lighters, that got the exact form for sanding- and steamdomes.
one has to keep the eyes open. (plus enough storeroom for junk)

#12

Mik, you look for a kerosene lamp? - may i brighten your day? i know, i know… the lamp is too big, the light too bright and too white.

(http://kormsen.info/specials/kerosenelamp00.JPG)

#13

Korm, the solution for too bright is to string two in series… you get a dull glow.

#14

same scene with external light: (i put the Bachmann engineer in the scene, to give you a measure for the dimensions)

(http://kormsen.info/specials/kerosenelamp05.JPG)

the most difficult part: cutting the cylinder. i destroyed the first bottle. the glas is very thin and my cutting disk has a whobble… i’ll have to ask at the hospital for smaller bottles. at the veterinary they had only this bigger type.

(http://kormsen.info/specials/kerosenelamp01.JPG)

for the tank i found these buttons(upper right) they are meant to covered with cloth and then to be pressed together. then i searched something for the “lamp-head”. an old .22 shell, cut to length was the answer. as i do not have a vise, i could not drill these tiny things. so i hammered a nail through them. (not very centric, i’m afraid)

(http://kormsen.info/specials/kerosenelamp02.JPG)

i took a grain of rice lamp from a christmas curtain, glued it into the shell (all glueing with the standard UHU glue), glued the shell into the upper part of the tank, filled everything with glue, put the lower tankhalfon the glue and forgot to pass the lightbulb with a yellow or orange marker (i had a hard night at our Oktoberfest) then i glued everything on a “tabletop” andafter the table got legs to hide the cables, i glued the cylinder on top of everything. if i discount the waiting for drying glue at the various steps, i put less than 20 minutes in it.

(http://kormsen.info/specials/kerosenelamp03.JPG)

#15
Mik said:
Korm, the solution for too bright is to string two in series.... you get a dull glow.
yes, i know. but i was too lazy. i used my weakest H0 power source to light it. but there are so many in one curtain, that i suspect, that they need even less than 0.5 volt.
#16

Korm, a source for your bottles. Do you know any insulin-using diabetics? They look like the same size as the ones I use. Guess I know how I’ll be recycling mine!

#17

Doug,
that is one advantage of getting old and sick…
one gets a collection of usefull things. from the aluminium, the pills are packed in, to the infusion tubes - one can use everything.

as i am more in 1:29, i will have to look for the smallest bottles. the size shown should be ok for 1:20.3 and, maybe, for 1:22.5.
next time i travel to the capital i will look for a laboratory-supplier. i remember from school, that small glastubes, if turned over a gas-burner, can be formed by drawing or pushing.

ps: have a closer look at the pricks for testing blood…

#18
Korm Kormsen said:
[i][/i] an old .22 shell, cut to length was the answer. as i do not have a vise, i could not drill these tiny things. so i hammered a nail through them.[i][/i]
Must be certain that this is a spent shell before hammering a nail on it :) Could make for a very bad day otherwise !
#19

but it is a rimfire shell and i did hammer in the center! ;-)))

#20

Good answer!
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