Hi all,
Yesterday I recieved my K27 (unlettered, unnumbered) that was ordered through a reputable supplier within the USA (with whom I have dealt often and have never had any problems). However, it came with a snow plow, now I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t order a model with a snow plow as the probability of Snow in South Australia is very limited, in fact I’ve never seen snow here in my whole life but I may have made a mistake online. Regardless of which model I ordered, I have been sent this one and I don’t think returning it would be an option. Still I am happy with its appearance and I have checked it over for shipping damage and haven’t found any (the loco and tender were shipped separately to cut shipping costs)
Anyway I have this model and I need some information on how to remove the plow then ,where/how to get ,if possible a new pilot to replace it.
Any help greatfully recieved.
Regards
Dave
David.
If the loco you received is not the one you ordered and you still want the correct one, I would not give up yet on getting the correct one.
Firstly contact the dealer and explain what happened. If the dealer refuses to swap over the loco for the correct one and pay for the freight both ways I would immediately dispute thte credit card transaction with your credit card company.
However, for a charge back to succeeed you must obeserve the following.
You must be able to prove (as in some form of written order eg E mail) that you did not receive what you ordered.
There must be nothing in the dealer advertising that would permit the dealer to supply a (possibly) different model as a substitute for the one ordered if they did not have the one ordered.
If you decide to keep the one you have you may be in for some difficulty in obtaining a different pilot. As far as I know there are no spare pilots to replace the snow plow.
Given that I would expect there are quite a few people who did want a snow plow version and got one without a snow plow, there might develop a swap shop for exchanging such parts.
Even if you are “down there”, . . you must be running a D&RG style layout. And on those lines in the Rocky Mountains of the American west there is snow a lot of the year. Drifts 20ft. high that have yet to melt still around in June some years. So engines ran with the plows a lot. I happen to love the look of those plows. I’d suggest keeping it. Only my $ .03 worth.
Good railroadin’, . . .
Pop the smokebox support rods out of the side of the smokebox.
Pop the snowplow support rods out of the side of the smokebox and remove.
Remove coupler box center screw from underneath, open box, remove box from coupler, squeeze centering springs and slip through hole in snowplow.
Remove two screws under deck.
The two that hold the cut-off pilot beam bottom covers in place are NOT the ones you want, you want the two just aft of that.
Work the plow up, keeping the upper back edge away from the smokebox door.
You will find the plow can then be removed from the deck, with 2 screws, but that the deck is a totally new molding, and absolutely unusable.
IF you want a proper deck, beam, cowcatcher, steps, and all that rot, you are in for some serious scratchbuilding.
Have fun!
TOC
I have since checked the confirmation e-mail and the model number shown is what has been shipped so there has been an error. I figure I must have checked the wrong engine. I’m not fussed I still have the loco and all I need to do is change out the plow. Later as these models become more common there maybe some-one who wants a plow and will be willing to do a swap. I will post on the other forum also. The Railroad I am building is a figment of my own imagination, however it is still situated within South Australia, so there will be no need for a snow plow, ever. (The railways here used all sorts of rolling stock and locomotives, some imported, the most famous being the 400 class Garretts.)so I have a precedence for importing a “foriegn locomotive”.
If I were to be realistic I would be modelling in 1.22.5 to model the local 3’6" narrow gauge but being new to the hobby a couple of years back I erred and began investing in the 1.20.3 scale, I am not worried about this because this scale seems to be the one, currently, growing the most.
Thanks for all the replies and thanks, TOC, for the dissassembly information.
Regards
Dave
ya, . . snow plow not of much use down there. To bad about wrong engine and shipped that far to ya. I love the look with those plows, . . have a picture of one ( the REAL thing, not a model ) posted right here on the wall by my “confuser”. Good railroadin’, . . . .
ps. have ya got a web site ? . . it’d be nice to see pictures of your railroad.
Dave Whellum said:What about sheep and 'roo removal from tracks? :) :)
The Railroad I am building is a figment of my own imagination, however it is still situated within South Australia, so there will be no need for a snow plow, ever.
I must admit also that the locomotive and plow looks good, even a friend’s wife was amazed by the detail of the model. Even though the narrow gauge in SA ran all over most of the state, the only place we ever get snow (which is a rare occurence) is on top of our highest peak where no rails run anyway. The most of the narrow gauge traffic was between Port Pirie and Broken hill and around the mid north of the state. I guess they had problems with roo’s, sheep and probably Emus but a normal pilot would suffice for them. As yet I don’t have any track on the ground, or a website, but I am working toward having something running later in the year. I have to rework the whole back yard to accomodate the railroad and because of the drought this has made things easier in a way as most of the smaller plants are finished and the lawn is almost dead anyway. I will have some problems with the Malealucas and Eucalypts as they drop a lot of litter and small branches. This picture shows some of the track I have hand spiked + crossover on the lawn about 18 months ago.
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii243/tiespike/backyard1.jpg)
the picture below in the background you can see all the trees.
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii243/tiespike/backyard2.jpg)
these are the coaches built from mls masterclass series.
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii243/tiespike/coaches004.jpg)
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii243/tiespike/coaches003.jpg)
I have several other things happening but I want to concentrate on some track this year to get myself motivated. The area outside the lawn and part of the lawn is where the railway will run. I hope this gives some idea of what I’m trying to do. Regards Dave
Love the passenger cars!
Nice cars David.
Do you have miniature blankets to go with them?
You did a nice job on the masterclass cars. I also like your locomotive. 
No blankets for the coaches, as you can see I put the brake detail underneath. They also have the toilet and pot bellies as well as carpet on the floor.
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii243/tiespike/coach002.jpg)
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii243/tiespike/coach003.jpg)
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii243/tiespike/coach001.jpg)
The loco is a Roundhouse Lady-Anne steamer that I bought in Kit form and assembled and painted myself. My first venture into modelling railways. I have added a few extra details with some more on the way. I’ve also fitted her with a radio control thanks to Tony at RCS.
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii243/tiespike/LadyAnne.jpg)
I hope you like the photo’s Regards Dave
David.
The blanket thing was joke.
There used to be the Onkaparinga woollen mills at Lobethal. Really high quality stuff.
Thanks Tony, I knew you were joking. I named my railroad Onkaparinga Valley, but it is a bit of a misnomer because I live near the Onkaparinga plains. The Onkaparinga Valley is actually within the Adelaide hills, east of the city whereas I live in the southern area at Reynella , nearer to the mouth of the River, which is at Port Noarlunga, but I remember the woolen mills.
Regards
Dave
David,
I have the same loco, and will be making the same conversion. Go to www.wholesaletrains.com, the have the road and the switcher pilots available (after 9/30/08) for about $10.00 US. I just ordered mine, along with some other Bachmann (I am assuming this is a Bachmann) parts for some scratch built cars.
Another cudo’s on the passenger cars.
Good luck with your comversion.
Bob
Dave Whellum said:Yes, you will. I love the look of them, but their small branches are the biggest cause of derailments on our line.
I will have some problems with the Malealucas and Eucalypts as they drop a lot of litter and small branches.
Dave,
Bachmann shows the proper K-27 Road Pilot deck, beam, cowcatcher, steps for $18.50…on their web site…
http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/products.php?act=viewCat&catId=202
Thanks for the information, I will be ordering a road pilot for the loco soon.
Work has had me out of the country for the last two weeks (in mongolia) so I have not been keeping up to date on this site.
Spent 6 days in the northeast of the country 70 km from the Russian border. The ‘hotel’ we stayed in had no running water and no power. It was quite an experience.
Dave