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It's the "Faint Hope" syndrome aka LGBoA press release

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#1

Hi all,

Steve Featherkile said:
Warren Mumpower said:
Wendell, I don't think LGBoA should be written off quite so quickly. There is more life there than what it appears.
. Warren's been watching "ER" again. :D Or is this rumor central being activated? This should bring out the talking heads...
Bart Salmons said:
OK!!!!! NO LGB IN THIS THREAD!!!!!!! I declare any post started by me an LGB FREE zone......Don't know....don't wanna know....don't care!!!!! I don;t even know where my LGB wheelset that I once had once upon a time somewhere is .....Don't make me bring Norm out........
Bart is right, his is a LGB free thread. ;) :) :D

Besides, there’s nothing to report, except: Märklin is producing, people are buying and NA has to wait and see. Oh yes, and the existing supplies are dwindling and dwindling and dwindling. C’est la vie!

#2

HJ, I think you need to go back and re-read what I said above.

Don’t plan the wake until the patient is dead!

#3
Warren Mumpower said:
HJ, I think you need to go back and re-read what I said above.

Don’t plan the wake until the patient is dead!


“I’m not dead!”
THUMP!

#4
Warren Mumpower said:
HJ, I think you need to go back and re-read what I said above.

Don’t plan the wake until the patient is dead!


Warren,

I read that carefully the first time around. Never been to a wake, so I wouldn’t know how to plan one.

But we know that Märklin production is getting up to speed, fresh inventory is being delivered to dealers everywhere and there is not a word from LGBoA.
As I said in another post, there’s good reason for that: nothing to report that would make them look better than they do and how good/bad they look is a matter of perception and information at hand. :wink: :slight_smile: :wink: Some have more, others have less. :confused:

#5

Wake planning is my specialty…heck I’m forever planning my own, based on all the wakes I’ve heard of.
I want to avoid the religious aspects, and dwell on the FUN, and Friendship part of life.

I believe that a GREAT WAKE should be held, while the person to be waked is alive, or at least in a state where he/she/it, can at least be proped up in a corner, and allowed to enjoy the fun too.

There should be an unending supply of holy water, finger food and mirth.

#6

Hans-

“Fresh delivery” by Marklin means a system of doing so. Is Marklin using LGB of America as its delivery system here in the U.S.? How is the Las Vegas store getting Marklin/LGB (accurate split identity?) products?
Any insights?

Wendell

#7

Currently, Marklin is NOT supplying the US market. They are getting Europe up to speed first, then will focus on the US. The relationship between LGBoA and Marklin will be announced in due time. Current new supply at dealers in the US is actually leftovers from the “old” LGB that is still being shipped by LGBoA.

#8

Hey guys

HJ said:
But we know that Märklin production is getting up to speed, fresh inventory is being delivered to dealers everywhere and there is not a word from LGBoA.
Not a word about NA in there! Perhaps I should have added through the local distributors. ;) :) ;) Mind you, there are some who pretend that there is no indication of where Kingsbridge wants to go with the Märklin and LGB® lines. Sheesh, I guess that old saw about "Those who can read have a clear advantage" holds true once more! Plenty of indications!

BTW do we have any other experienced cooks in the audience? You know what makes a good soup or stew? The right ingredients and patient, slow cooking. As far as I’m concerned: let things slow simmer to the right consistency and then serve up a tasty dish.
Which reminds me, another favourite of mine is reeling down the ingredients for any dish when asked what’s in it. And I like it even better when people then get out pen and paper and on every second ingredient ask: “Couldn’t you do without that?”. Certainly, just doesn’t taste quite the same. :wink: :slight_smile: Like that BLT sandwich where “but hold the tomatoes etc. etc.” is the spoof.

#9
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
But we know that Märklin production is getting up to speed, fresh inventory is being delivered to dealers everywhere ....
The reports I have indicate that there is little new production happening yet. Track is being made at the old location and there are requests to stay there longer. Most of what is being made available is stock produced after the freeze and during Schöntags stay prior to the judgement. The rest is assembly of left over components by Märklin. Except for ties, very little plastic is being shot. Hopefully Märklin can get things moving, but there are also reports the Hungary location was already at capacity prior to the LGB takeover.

Jack

#10

Oh, I forgot to mention that even spare part orders are being filled by Märklin LGB®; both to dealers and those who ordered direct from the factory. :wink: :slight_smile: According to my sources: things are moving.
Now we just wait for the tangled web in NA to be sorted out. :smiley: :smiley:

I won’t say “Decision in the works - wait 'til next week”; it takes as long as it takes. It’s like a tasty stew - it all depends who is being stewed. :wink: Anyone who is able to read knows who is in the driver’s seat - follow the money!

#11

HJ,
let us hope that this culinary delight does not leave a sour taste, otherwise this saga will drag on ad finitum. Maybe a little more seasoning could be added and as always a bit more heat and a large stirring spoon.

#12

…I’ve got my spoons…a stainless steel one and my dearly departed, mother’s wooden one.

.......let me stir, let me stir.......pleeease mister; let me stir.

I'll even promise not to lick either spoon untill the "Stew is ready"

On a serious note;

  Don't you guys think that it is a waste of time speculating about all this crap.

Whether we see track with LGB, or Marklin, stamped or embedded on the ties, doesn’t matter a rat’s fart…it won’t hurt any piece of rolling stock to run on some other manufacturers’ track; contrary to what your LGB “Leaders/handlers” have led you to believe.
This is NOT LGB bashing…it’s just fact…
It’s even safe to use a dry cell battery to power an LGB train…it doesn’t need exported LGB power…

Let’s all get out of the box and go on with life and see what else is on the market…It might just surprise you, and open up a whole new world.

#13
Jack Barton said:
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
But we know that Märklin production is getting up to speed, fresh inventory is being delivered to dealers everywhere ....
The reports I have indicate that there is little new production happening yet. Track is being made at the old location and there are requests to stay there longer. Most of what is being made available is stock produced after the freeze and during Schöntags stay prior to the judgement. The rest is assembly of left over components by Märklin. Except for ties, very little plastic is being shot. Hopefully Märklin can get things moving, but there are also reports the Hungary location was already at capacity prior to the LGB takeover.

Jack


Ah, dontcha just love it.
Seems to be the Communist News Network Syndrome…
“reports”.
Plural, no less.

With barristers now in charge, no wonder one must be extra careful in what they put into print.

I guess it’s what “reports” one puts faith in.

#14

HJ, no tangled web at all. Things are happening in due order…in due time. Marklin has things under control…and so does LGBoA. It’s just not moving as fast as some outsiders would like.

#15

Warren…
You’ve got it at least half right…
SOMEBODY has things under control.

#16

LGB of America???

Any management wishing to speak?

We will listen.

W.

#17

Warren Mumpower said:
HJ, no tangled web at all. Things are happening in due order…in due time. Marklin has things under control…and so does LGBoA. It’s just not moving as fast as some outsiders would like.

Yes Warren,

on: I know this has been a straight forward insolvency right from the start and anything that happened had nothing to do with untangling a web. It was all a conspiracy by the banks. :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

off Of course it will all get sorted out! I know that Märklin has things under control and can easily wait to arrive at the terms they see as desirable. They won’t be sweating it, remember Axel Dietz mentioned that garden railroading is counter-cyclical to their other lines i.e. have things good and ready for the Spring and Summer season. As I said let the stew simmer 'til good and ready! Which reminds me, better check on that “Broccoli & Garlic” soup I have simmering. :wink: :slight_smile: :wink:

#18
Fred Mills said:
......I've got my spoons.....a stainless steel one and my dearly departed, mother's wooden one. 
.......let me stir, let me stir.......pleeease mister; let me stir.

I'll even promise not to lick either spoon untill the "Stew is ready"

On a serious note;

  Don't you guys think that it is a waste of time speculating about all this crap.

Whether we see track with LGB, or Marklin, stamped or embedded on the ties, doesn’t matter a rat’s fart…it won’t hurt any piece of rolling stock to run on some other manufacturers’ track; contrary to what your LGB “Leaders/handlers” have led you to believe.
This is NOT LGB bashing…it’s just fact…
It’s even safe to use a dry cell battery to power an LGB train…it doesn’t need exported LGB power…

Let’s all get out of the box and go on with life and see what else is on the market…It might just surprise you, and open up a whole new world.


Fred,

Märklin will sort it out their way. What’s stamped/engraved/EDMed in the bottom of the ties … who cares.
Matter of fact I have a load of Aristo track on the way for our Switching Layout, has to coexist with LGB turnouts. And the Aristo turnouts have to coexist with the EPL motors. The electrons flowing don’t give a hoot, they exit another mfgs equipment.

Been saying that for years: mix and match what works best for the intended purpose.

#19

In the matter of your talking HJ you sound as though you forget it was NOT LGBoA that filed bankruptcy. Marklin may have the upper hand, but they still need to play nice or it could backfire on them. They will still need to play the “give and take” game. When the final paperwork is signed you will get your press release.

#20
Warren Mumpower said:
In the matter of your talking HJ you sound as though you forget it was NOT LGBoA that filed bankruptcy. Marklin may have the upper hand, but they still need to play nice or it could backfire on them. They will still need to play the "give and take" game. When the final paperwork is signed you will get your press release.
Warren,

I remember things from when I was two and three years old, not likely will I forget the pre-preamble and the preamble to “The Insolvency”. I mentioned often enough that one would have to go back a few years on this; that hasn’t changed at all, not by one single iota.

As the saying goes: “The best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry”. :wink: :slight_smile: