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Is this an unusual car door arrangement?

Folks, I spotted this in the yard at Duluth, MN Railroad museum. I had never seen a door arrangement like this before so had the wife take a shot of it. It may not be uncommon as Lord knows I’m not that knowledgeable on this stuff.

Andre’

That looks a lot like the early EBT steel boxcar setup. What’s unusual about it, actually? It seems fairly typical of an early composite car…

Bob,

I had never seen doors like that previously.

Andre’

Typical Deluth Winipeg & Pacific, outside braced wood box car…probably with steel underframe. It does have indications of a different type steel end though. There were a bunch of different steel ends used during this type of cars’ building period.

Andre:

How does this car’s door differ from others you’ve seen?

I assume this is standard gauge??

Thanks for posting the pix of an historic car!

Fred:

Special thanks for pointing out what appears to be a unique pressed / fabricated steel car end!

Happy RRing,

Jerry Bowers

Jerry,

My limited exposure has only known the more common sliding doors.

Andre’

Here’s a shot of the side of an early EBT steel boxcar

Andre Schofield said:
Jerry,

My limited exposure has only known the more common sliding doors.

Andre’


Andre:

Unless there is something I can’t see in the pix, I’m pretty certain that door slides. Upper and lower tracks extending away from the closed door toward the right and some latching hardware hidden behind the fence. Not being expert on eastern RRs, what am I missing?

BTW, my exposure is similarly limited!!

Bob’s EBT picture on the other hand doesn’t seem to have visible door tracks, especially at the bottom. Again, what am I missing?

Thanks & Happy RRing,

Jerry

…it could be that our friendly neighbourhood police officer is more in tune with jail cell doors…that swing on hinges !!!

Well said Fred…never have said I know much about trains. Just like to play with 'em!

Andre’

It does look funnier than the standard boxcar door. Looks like it is made in 2 pieces or opens in 2 pieces. Probably doesn’t, just looks like it does.

that is what I thought was so strange. I should have said so. The door(s) were separated on the horizontal plane.

Andre’

As anyone can tell who has even 20/400 eyesight, the top door slides down over the bottom door to allow the hobos to gaze out on the countryside.

Good Grief!

madwolf

Steve Featherkile said:
As anyone can tell who has even 20/400 eyesight, the top door slides down over the bottom door to allow the hobos to gaze out on the countryside.
The brakemen have to tip their hats and the railroad bulls are blind ...

:lol: :smiley: :lol: Everyone knows that is true.

that tidbit of info would have ended my curiosity much sooner. I didn’t get close enough to check out the operation of the doors. Pardon me for being naive enough to expect a gracious revelation of the facts from those in the know to those who don’t.

Andre’

Sorry Andre’ no insult was intended

Andre,
This car is just old, not unusual. Southen Rlwy. had 100’s of a similar design. The door is wood with metal frame top, bottom and sides. There is a horizontal brace of angle iron. The two handles are for sliding the door. One handle is low for someone on the ground, the middle one is for somene on a platform. The most unusual feature is end design.
Keith