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Ideas needed for a what if D&RG dismal circa 1950

Given that it’s my RR and I can do what I want. I need ideas for a dismal to pull all my RG stuff that normally runs behind the K36 or K37. #50 is 2 small. An RS3 in 1:20 might do it but tha’s a fair amount of work. Ideas…anyone?? Fictional is Ok

Have you tried looking at the old White Pass units? Or maybe something from South America? That monster centercab from Bachmann might have fit your timeframe as well. Or perhaps rebuild an Aristo RS-3 into a model of that monster Porter they are using on the Georgetown loop now.

They might have purchased locos similar to those used by the White Pass & Yukon. I think LGB produced them.

For other use they could have used a smaller diesel akin to the 45 tonner produced by Bachmann or, even electrified and run boxcabs or steeple cabs. Red River Lumber Co. used electric boxcabs. Since it’s fantasy anyway even a boxcab diesel as done by Bruce Chandler would work. Check it out, it’s a beautiful model.

Larry,
You state that the #50 is ‘too small’. Are you referring to actual size or hauling capacity. I believe that scalewise, #50 is close to 1/20.3 dimensions. In reality, #50 did not arrive at the D&RGW until the early 1960’s and was used as a switcher on the narrow-gauge. In conjunction with an idler car it may have switched the standard gauge rail. The diesel would need to be fictional as the narrow gauge had a very limited choice of diesel locomotives to use. For a diesel, although a later prototype, the LGB #2056 Rio Grande Alco is a possibilty, although may appear quite small next to the Mikados.

Hi Larry,

Bachmann produced a 1:20.3 45T dismal a while ago. I know there are some on offer on UK Ebay, maybe the US Ebay as well. Worth contacting Al Kramer*: he seems to get lots of hard to get items. There were black, yellow and red colored.

  • I believe he is known as Anna Kramer on Ebay. If I am wrong I am sure someone will be good enough to put you right.

What about those military engines the D&RG tested for the Army back in the 50’s? They were multi-gauge adjustable and were tested over the narrow gauge lines as well as the standard gauge lines. Some ended up on the White Pass and Yukon so theres still info on them.

(http://narrowmind.railfan.net/WPYR/diesel/81_diesel/81-drgw1.JPG)

G.E. US Army #3000

Maybe a modded Aristo FA unit? They seem to blend well mixing scales and eras?

You could do something like this Rich Yoder model of narrow gauge X1

(http://www.lscdata.com/users/jebouck/SP%20narrow%20gauge.jpg)

A smaller center cab? This one is based on US Gypsum #40

(http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/eastbroadtop/WoodlandRY/WRY40.2.jpg)

Later, K

I would model 4700N:

(http://a.imageshack.us/img39/5240/4700n.jpg)

(http://a.imageshack.us/img828/3033/usa4700ndurangorh.jpg)

It was the first of the two Army diesels tested on the D&RGW (1954 I believe?). 3000 was the second and was larger. If you need plans for 4700N, send me an email ([email protected]) and I’d be glad to send you a file. I was thinking about scratch building a version in 1:22.5 scale for our layout. I’m just wondering where to start for trucks and other parts. Here’s a video that includes a short glimpse of 4700N in color on the point of a train (the clip of 4700N starts at 0:24): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwdCLNZesiA

Thanks guys. I assume the Bachmann center cap is no longer available what about the center cab from Custom model products…anyone know anything about it?

#50 too small…it’s ok in the yard but not what I had in mind for dragging 9 cars around the RR

The CMP center cab is patterned after a standard gauge 44-tonner. It’s 5 1/4" wide, 18 1/2" long and 6 1/4" high, so that scales out to 8’ 9" wide x 31’ 3" long x 10’ 7" tall. That’s smaller than a standard gauge 44-tonner in 1:20.3, (which measured 10’ 1" x 33’ 5" x 13’ 2"). It is definitely larger than the USA 1:29 44-tonner, though. They call it narrow gauge and list the scale as 1:20.3, though I’ve never seen a narrow gauge center cab that looks identical to the GE 44-tonner as this one does.

Later,

K