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Hillman Rail Clamps

When the Hillmans were in ownership of the production side of the business, I rarely had trouble sourcing the numerous rail clamps and power feeder clamps needed for my railroad. Ridge Road Station, always (within reason) had ample stock available and at a heavily discounted price. With a new owner of the clamps, I note that supplies at Ridge Road have dwindled to almost nothing and prices are at full retail level and not the usual discounted price available under the previous ownership.

Note this is not a criticism of the new owner/producer of the clamps. I went to Hillmans initially, as supplies of Split-Jaw were always sporadic and I actually, now prefer the Hillman-branded product. Pity that supplies are now as sporadic as the other brand product.

My understanding is that after dinner several times a week the entire family stayed at the table and assembled clamps, then bagged them.
The cost to pay someone to do that probably precludes discounting.
Can you imagine the Silvergate crowd sitting around the dinner table assembling clamps?

Dave,
maybe the Yahoo family forum could stage ‘work bees’ and get the things bagged up more efficiently. They could be paid peanuts, sorry Piko(nuts).

Hillman’s entire production process was highly labor intensive. That included the cutting and machining as well as the assembly process as Dave detailed above.

I made an unsuccessful bid for the business with the specific idea that I would streamline much of the production process, as well as making a small improvement to the clamp profile that would increase the clamp’s strength and thus prevent one of the occasional failure modes some of us had discovered.

Streamlining of the production process would have eliminated about half of the handling and time during the machining operations and would have allowed use of a smaller cross section of brass stock to make the same size clamps. This change would eliminate quite a bit of mill cutter wear, along with much of the large volume of brass shavings that result from the current operations.

My bid fell way short of what the Hillman’s wanted for the business, with Silvergate being the successful purchaser. I don’t know whether Silvergate continues to manufacture the same way as the Hillmans, but I am not surprised the price is higher if they have not revised that system. Again, as Dave points out, it is one thing when all the family gathers 'round to help out, but another when you are paying employees to do all the work. That doubly so in a high cost labor market as exists in San Diego and a high cost to manufacture state like California.

Too bad, as I really believe in the Hillmans and their product. I guess I should offer some of my systems engineering consulting services to Silvergate to implement the changes I envisioned. It might serve to help keep costs in line, especially with increasing prices on everything from the brass stock to the tooling to the labor.

The thought of a Yahoo Family Forum work bee is good for a hoot! :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

Happy RRing,

Jerry

Jerry,
I also really like the Hillman product line. Thankfully, they transitioned to the larger foot profile of the stainless track from Aristo-Craft. Up until then I was suffering the occasional breakage with the power supply clamps, which until relatively recently, were only available in the brass track profile outline. Truly, an excellent product which I hope continues on being so. I did enjoy the family side of the business though, rather than nameless individuals simply manufacturing a product. Family involvement instils a sense of inherent quality.

páseme otra abrazadera, compinche

Silvergate may be cutting out distribution other than through themselves.

Tim Brien said:
Dave, maybe the Yahoo family forum could stage ‘work bees’ and get the things bagged up more efficiently. They could be paid peanuts, sorry Piko(nuts).

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Given the tone of recent posts over there, I think this might be the end results… :wink:

Has anyone ever used eMachineShop to build small items? Ive played around with it, but never actually used their service. This sounds like it might be a good application for making rail clamps.