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#1

Hello all I would like to introduce myself, I am Andy Sleigh from jolly old Britain. Currently i am building, or going to build, a 16mm garden railway. should be getting some track and wood tomorrow. www.freewebs.com/beechgrovelightrailway I have a couple of live steam 16mm sm32 loco’s, An Edrig- which shall hopefully be under going an overhaul when it gets converted to coal firing, and shall have lot of bits n bobs put on.

and an Excelsior, which has had a few mods to make it run very very well.

I also play around with 5", 7 1/4" at the guildford model engineering society and 10 1/4" at the south downs light railway. I hope to move on to the traction engines at Hollycombe next. And thats about it. ta ta for now. Andy

#2

Welcome, Andy. That’s some pretty neat looking stuff.

#3

Welcome, Andy. I really like the small British outline lokeys. Thanks for sharing.

#4

Hi Andy,
Nice. Good luck with your railway.
Ralph

#5

Welcome Andy. Keep us updated with lots of photos.

#6

Welcome aboard, Andrew. We have an “Andy C.” So do you prefer Andrew, Drew or Andy S? Your work certainly shows your interest. Thanks for sharing.

#7
Ric Golding said:
Welcome aboard, Andrew. We have an "Andy C." So do you prefer Andrew, Drew or Andy S? Your work certainly shows your interest. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Ric I dont really mind what i am called, but Andrew will do fine.
#8

Thank you all for your kind greetings.
I will try and take as many pics as i can of the railroad.

I should be going to get some wood today, once the scale plan has been done. And a load of track arrived today, which means i can start asap.

Andrew

#9
andrew sleigh said:
Thank you all for your kind greetings. I will try and take as many pics as i can of the railroad.

I should be going to get some wood today, once the scale plan has been done. And a load of track arrived today, which means i can start asap.

Andrew


Dear Mr Sleigh - tac here. I live, if that’s the right word, in East Anglia for a goodly part of the year. Do you know Sandy of Scottish garden Rail? He operates out of a mud hut in Stirling. Great guy to deal with and very keen prices, too.

tac

#10
Terry A de C Foley said:
andrew sleigh said:
Thank you all for your kind greetings. I will try and take as many pics as i can of the railroad.

I should be going to get some wood today, once the scale plan has been done. And a load of track arrived today, which means i can start asap.

Andrew


Dear Mr Sleigh - tac here. I live, if that’s the right word, in East Anglia for a goodly part of the year. Do you know Sandy of Scottish garden Rail? He operates out of a mud hut in Stirling. Great guy to deal with and very keen prices, too.

tac


Hi Tac
I’m sorry, i do not know sandy.

Andy

#11

Welcome aboard!

#12

Andrew,

Welcome to Bedlam! Some neat looking items you showed there. Looking forward to seeing more.

You really should get to know that Terry fella. He’s a Prince of a guy. Just don’t get between him and his fish & chips! :wink:

#13
andrew sleigh said:
I'm sorry, i do not know sandy.

Andy


Well, Sir, shame on you. He is Scotland’s only large-scale dealer - I’ll let YOU look him up on his excellent Scottish Garden Rail site. The reason I pointed him out to you is that appear to be a 16mm-er, and he has some great prices that may just beat hell out of YOUR local dealers. However, seeing where you live, trying to save a few pennies may not be high on your agenda…:wink:

Like I said, I ‘live’ in East Anglia and Sandy’s prices just can’t be beat, especially if you factor in the cost of gasoline/petroleum spirits.

BTW, Richard’s warning is very apposite. Big men have rued the day they tried to put themselves 'twixt me and fish & chips. A mom bear parted from her cubs is as nought by comparison.

tac

#14

Andy,

Pardon my ignorance, but just what is 16mm scale?

I surfed your website, the photos you have are well done. You have a good eye

#15
Steve Featherkile said:
Andy,

Pardon my ignorance, but just what is 16mm scale?

I surfed your website, the photos you have are well done. You have a good eye


Hi

16mm scale is 16mm to the foot, so 16mm on the small engine, would be one foot in real life.
altho this seems to have gone out the window, as there are hardly any scale locos.

Thanks for the photos comment.

andy

#16
andrew sleigh said:
Steve Featherkile said:
Andy,

Pardon my ignorance, but just what is 16mm scale?

I surfed your website, the photos you have are well done. You have a good eye


Hi

16mm scale is 16mm to the foot, so 16mm on the small engine, would be one foot in real life.
altho this seems to have gone out the window, as there are hardly any scale locos.

Thanks for the photos comment.

andy


Which in the decimal world would be 1:19.

Welcome to LSC, Andy!

#17

2 foot gauge prototype running on 32mm (1.25") gauge track, I think.

16 mm/ft = 16mm/12*25.4 = 16mm/304.8mm = 1:19.05

#18
Joe Satnik said:
2 foot gauge prototype running on 32mm (1.25") gauge track, I think.

16 mm/ft = 16mm/12*25.4 = 16mm/304.8mm = 1:19.05


Just to put all our overseas friends in the picture, 16mm scale began here in UK in the late 1960’s.

The reason is simple when you understand that the two-foot gauge predominates British narrow gauge prototype lines, mostly in Wales. So the models, chunky, short and suited to our tiny backyards, were built to run on 0 gauge track, which, at 32mm between the tracks, gives you the scale of 16mm to the foot. We prefer not to use the term 1/19th scale, but blanket the whole genre with the term 16mm - over here we all know what we are talking about.

The Association of 16mm Narrow Gauge Modellers - www.16mm.org.uk - is the guiding light in this scale, and have eleven shows between 17 May and 28 Jun alone this year in various venues.

The UK has most of the 16mm model builders in the world, from Roundhouse, to Peter Angus, and about 90% of all Accucraft UK’s models are also in this scale. The NG/G16 Garratt, at over three feet long and weighing almost forty pounds, is a model of a two-foot gauge prototype, three of which actually run over here on the Welsh Highland Railway - check out the many YouTube entries here.

16mm is THE scale for those who wish to run UK-prototypical short trains in a small space.

Between them, Garden Railway Specialist have over five thousand items in stock - from buildings to wagons of all kinds to suit the many still-extant lines here in UK.

A couple of my contacts on other forums have also been enchanted by the small but immensely powerful locos, often as brightly-cloured as their rolling stock.

Have a look at the web-site and see!

tac

#19
Terry A de C Foley said:
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Just to put all our overseas friends in the picture, 16mm scale began here in UK in the late 1960’s.

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tac,

The origin was self-evident, at least to me. :slight_smile: When you have that happy Metric and Imperial mixture to arrive at a ratio, you bet it’s gotta be the guys from the UK. :lol: :stuck_out_tongue: :lol: Dates back to the “Hair shirt” days! :slight_smile: