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Gun club, Police Chief, indicted in boy's Uzi death

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081204/ap_on_re_us/boy_shoots_himself

All these people give gun owners a bad name. Having a 15 year old supervise another child with an Uzi.
They are holding the Police Chief (promoter) and the gun club where the event was held criminally responsible.
What about the father who was there, reaching for his camera ? The officials are siting ignorance (he’s a laymen) as the reason the father isn’t being charged.
This man is a Doctor. He thought an Uzi was safe?
Ralph

There is no such thing as an unloaded firearm.

They knew it was loaded. The boy was going to shoot it. When he squeezed off a burst, the recoil got away from him, the gun tipped back and he shot himself in the forehead.

Letting a kid try an uzi without an adult hand to steady and make sure it stayed pointing down range might not have been wise.

Terrible tragedy.

Tom Ruby said:
They knew it was loaded. The boy was going to shoot it. When he squeezed off a burst, the recoil got away from him, the gun tipped back and he shot himself in the forehead.

Letting a kid try an uzi without an adult hand to steady and make sure it stayed pointing down range might not have been wise.

Terrible tragedy.


A team of six of us trialled the micro-UZI [the weapon being demonstrated by the people running the gun display] and found it as near as darnit unmanageable on burst-fire. The late boy’s father, who knew DS about ANY kind of firearm, erroneously believed that because it was so small, that it would be a lot easier to handle than a bigger, ie. full-size, version of the UZI, one of the best-handling SMGs ever designed.
I am 5’11" and, with a nekkid weight approaching 104 kg, built like a refrigerator. In my hands the micro-UZI was probably the most dangerous thing I have ever fired in my life, especially to me - twice I nearly put my fingers over the muzzle, and no matter how I held it, it climbed like a ferret with a rocket up its ar*e going up a up a rain-pipe.

Terrible tragedy, but more than one person is to blame here, one of who is the Police chief- who was the organisaer of the event. MA has has strict gun laws that require parental consent and the presence of a certified and licensed instructor on a one-to-one basis before a child is allowed to fire a weapon. The consent may have been there, but the ‘overseer’ on this occasion was another boy, aged fifteen. HE will not face any charges. He doesn’t have to be punished, IMO.

For the the rest of his life he will see the bullets, at 28 shots a second, blowing his little friend’s head off right in front of his eyes.

tac

I agree. I don’t think more punishment is required. They’ll be haunted by that little guy all their lives.

This hits very close to home as one of the indicted lives in the next town over from me. If what Terry says is true, and I have no reason to doubt him, It would have been irresponsible of the event owners to allow any inexperienced shooters to try that particular weapon.

Gun accidents are always tragic. I had a close call as a teenager. A friend and I were trying out my brother’s 357 semi-auto rifle without permission or instruction. After firing off a couple of rounds harmlessly into a dirt pile we removed the clip. We had no idea there would still be a cartridge in the chamber. Later, when picking up the rifle it discharged. Fortunately the only casualties were a mattress, a bed frame and 2 walls of our house, all of which were penetrated by the bullet. We were both very fortunate that no-one was in the path. That accident taught me extreme respect for weapons in a split second.

If the Mini-Uzi is so dangerous to control, why is such a stupidly designed weapon even allowed to be sold? Why would anyone in there right mind WANT such a stupedly hazardous weapon? BTW I thought it was completely ILLEGAL to have any FULLY automatic weapon? I’ll stick to “Old West” firearms thank you.

Used to be Victor. The Bush administration allowed that law to expire.

Jon Radder said:
That accident taught me extreme respect for weapons in a slit second.
...and just how quickly you can ruin a good pair of pants, too.

tac

Victor Smith said:
If the Mini-Uzi is so dangerous to control, why is such a stupidly designed weapon even allowed to be sold? Why would anyone in there right mind WANT such a stupedly hazardous weapon? BTW I thought it was completely ILLEGAL to have any FULLY automatic weapon? I'll stick to "Old West" firearms thank you.
Mr Smith - it wasn't designed to be SOLD to the public, it was designed to be ISSUED to special forces of the Israeli military, just like the full-size UZI and the smaller Mini-UZI. Small sub-machine guns have always been around since the invention of the full-size version. The Glock 18 is another weapon, this time a pistol that can empty its magazine of 30 rounds in a little over 2 seconds.

Sub-machine guns were always the province of the fully-trained soldier, NOT civilians playing at soldiers. The fact that in the USA you can pay your $200 tax and legally own a fully-automatic weapon is one of your freedoms exercised by many hundreds of thousands of safe shooters.

Do a search for Knob Creek, Ky., and watch it all done safely.

tac

Terry A de C Foley said:
Jon Radder said:
That accident taught me extreme respect for weapons in a slit second.
...and just how quickly you can ruin a good pair of pants, too.

tac


Dang spell checkers :smiley: