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Garden RGS Construction - Part 1

I have been working for a couple of years to get a long-neglected part of my yard in shape to build a new garden railroad. About three years ago, I began to use herbicide to eradicate the massive amount of ivy that had taken over a couple thousand square feet of the yard. This is what I had about 1 year ago: most of the ivy was sickly or gone, with a mess like this still in part of the yard.

After more than a year of cutting brush and filling the weekly trash can with debris, I have a clear enough space to lay out a grid and mark where tracks and walls will go.

I placed stakes on 20-foot intervals corresponding to my plan. Marking paint connects the main grid markers. Then I staked out the limits of track, especially the limits of curves, and placed rocks along the proposed retaining walls so we (my wife) could visualize what the final product will be. (“It’s going to be THAT BIG?”)

Taking her helpful advice about the size of my planned pike I moved everything back five feet. I lost 30 feet of mainline but gained a happier wife. Over the weekend I started some excavation with a shovel. (This is my exercise program!)

This section of the rail road will probably require helper service.

Ha ha. Actually I’m going to build a “table” section so I don’t have to put in a retaining wall, buy and move tons of soil and bury the base of my trees. (See here for Richard Smith’s Port Orford Coast RR) I’ll build the Lizard Head return loop, the Matterhorn table section and add a temporary return loop – hopefully before the rains come this year.

Like the real Rio Grande Southern, the mainline works hard to climb from Ridgway (about where the camera is), the lowest point on the pike, to Lizard Head (way up that orange line about 60 feet up the hill). The climb is about 8 feet vertically, so there is a nearly constant 2.5 to 3.0 percent grade all the way along the 380 foot mainline.

Good luck getting rid of that stuff.

Here is my track plan. It is still changing as I look at the reality of the dirt that I have.

Ambitious!

I hope you are a young man!

Building it is exciting, doing the maintenance, not so much…

John Caughey said:

Ambitious!

I hope you are a young man!

Building it is exciting, doing the maintenance, not so much…

I’m expecting the maintenance. This is my retirement exercise plan.

Russell Shilling said:

Here is my track plan. It is still changing as I look at the reality of the dirt that I have.

Mine changed about every 5 minutes…(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)

Ken Brunt said:

Mine changed about every 5 minutes…(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)

Is that because you found a better way, or forgot what you were doing?..(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-sealed.gif)

I usually make a basic plan, then design as I go.

Chris Kieffer said:

Ken Brunt said:

Mine changed about every 5 minutes…(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)

Is that because you found a better way, or forgot what you were doing?..(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-sealed.gif)

I usually make a basic plan, then design as I go.

Me, I just forgot that I found a better way. (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-foot-in-mouth.gif)Doing it outside is so much different than inside where it’s easy to measure exactly where everything is. Just HOW big is that bush? Yeah, a lot of changes made after the initial design…(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-embarassed.gif)

Is that because you found a better way, or forgot what you were doing?

It usually turns out that what looks OK on paper doesn’t translate well in reality. I was also using a “sectional track planning program”, but the only sectional track is inside the shed.

Ken Brunt said:

Russell Shilling said:

Here is my track plan. It is still changing as I look at the reality of the dirt that I have.

Mine changed about every 5 minutes…(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)

Ha ha…

No plan survives first contact. Sun Tzu (or was it Fredrick the Great, or Napoleon?)

I had a general idea laid out on a napkin, but changed it as things went along. I’m still changing it, and its been 20 years.

Steve Featherkile said:

No plan survives first contact. Sun Tzu (or was it Fredrick the Great, or Napoleon?)

I had a general idea laid out on a napkin, but changed it as things went along. I’m still changing it, and its been 20 years.

I suspect that someone somewhere has actually measured out their garden to the nth degree and is just laughing at my pathetic attempts…

BUT, my experience has reinforced this idea that there’s just nothing like putting the track in place, finding it’s NOT EVEN close to what I was thinkin’, then changing to something better.

Adaptation to changes…(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-embarassed.gif)

Steve Featherkile said:

No plan survives first contact. Sun Tzu (or was it Fredrick the Great, or Napoleon?)

I had a general idea laid out on a napkin, but changed it as things went along. I’m still changing it, and its been 20 years.

And, BTW, I THINK it was von Moltke, but a LOT of folks have said it…

Ooh.

Mike Tyson may have had a better version: “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.”

Bruce Chandler said:

Ooh.

Mike Tyson may have had a better version: “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.”

I like that one even better.

Bruce Chandler said:

Ooh.

Mike Tyson may have had a better version: “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.”

I have his phone number it’s

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" Rooster " said:

Bruce Chandler said:

Ooh.

Mike Tyson may have had a better version: “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.”

I have his phone number it’s

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Dang…missed THAT one…(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-embarassed.gif)

Welcome aboard the crazy train … if you hadn’t noticed… great start …

be welcome Russel!

and don’t believe everything, he guys tell you.

the quote was by von Clausewitz. (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)