Built from some LGB spare parts. Freelance design. Ball-bearing wheel pickups. Eight foot minimum diameter.
looks great. I know what you used for the front half but what and how did you do the cole box?
thanks
Tim Brien said:
Built from some LGB spare parts. Freelance design. Ball-bearing wheel pickups. Eight foot minimum diameter.(http://www.lscdata.com/users/tim_brien/_forumfiles/madsjg.JPG)
Beautiful job - exactly like it might have been! A Stainz and a [powered] tender put together in one coherent unit. Works for me. More and detailed pics please - I’ve got a spare Stainz to hack about. tac www.ovgrs.org
Very nice!
Geoff, bunker on rear is a cutdown LGB tender body and chassis. Reduced approximately 3cms in length. I have posted numerous photographs on the MAD forum, if able to view. Basically, the shortened tender chassis is mated (bonded and screwed) to the rear of the loco chassis. The tender body is reduced to suit. A Bachmann archbar truck was modified (all sideframe detail removed) and the axleboxes cut from the tender chassis were bonded to the archbar sideframe, giving a more military/industrial look. If attempting again, I would try to mount the trailing truck more under the locomotive to shorten the overall length. The main purpose of the exercise was to provide extra power pickups without resorting to a trailing tender or additional power pickup car. The tender body is a separate part to the loco cabin. I initially intended bonding the two units as one piece, but logistically it is more preferable to keep as separate units to ease assembly/disassembly. All pieces were bonded with a high strength 24 hour cure epoxy. This is time consuming (and messy), but is about the only method to adequately join LGB plastics. Terry, I have reached my ‘free’ posting limit on this site (5mb). If able, check the kitbashing section of the MAD forum. I believe someone may have mentioned that non-members were unable to view photographs on the MAD site.
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Dear Tim - if by the MAD site you mean www.gscalemad.co.uk I was first publicly humiliated and then accused of posting obscene comments by the moderator who also runs the 16mm Garratt Association.
I also got tired of trying to translate some of the tripe that was written there into standard English.
I left, and have not been back since.
So, no, sadly I cannot view your images.
tac
no got to be a member to see the pictures.
thanks for the info. I have a lot of the same things around here. I think I might give that a try this winter. hope you don’t mind me copying from you.
Geoff
Terry,
I did stop posting on the particular site for several months, as I became disillusioned with the seemingly increasing juvenile (no disrespect, merely referring to age group) content of the forum. I went through a similar experience on the Bachmann forum, when it seemed that very young people and Thomas fans were over running the site. One needs to really bite their tongue on the site and not express their true feelings, regardless of comments in print.
The site is more a 'show and tell' avenue for one's latest commercial purchases and there is a good sense of personal comraderie between the members. While there is very little actual modelling on the site, it does perform a very good function of uniting like-minded souls. Personally, I would prefer more modelling orientation, rather than credit card railroading. I do post quite profusely on my latest modelling projects to try to stimulate some modelling direction on the site (although very little interest in American narrow-gauge modelling). There are some very good modellors on the site, but in the main, the majority prefer ready to run purchases with a seeming emphasis on LGB products, although of late, recent Accucraft releases have induced a lot of interest, with Isle of Man items creating intense interest in their homegrown railways.Credit card railroading, I like that term Tim! Cracks me up when someone complains that a certain paint scheme is not available for a loco/car that one can buy. Or the one that really gets me is when they want cars with different numbers. How hard is it to remove a number and put a new one on? SHeesh!
Jerry,
if I have one criticism of the current largescale hobby, it is the apparent lack of skill base in its modellors. Most of us oldtimers ‘served’ an apprenticeship in smaller gauges/scales before venturing into largescale and so had a reasonable level of modelling experience to carryover. Today’s modellors have been ‘spoiled’ with the volume of ready to run and so the requisite skill level is no longer needed.
Tim Brien said:I've been building models as long as I can remember. I can do a decent job with a kit, and even a little kit-bashing. But I really don't have the talent that some of you have. While I'm not "all thumbs", I'm certainly not Rembrandt either. Ralph
Jerry, if I have one criticism of the current largescale hobby, it is the apparent lack of skill base in its modellors. Most of us oldtimers 'served' an apprenticeship in smaller gauges/scales before venturing into largescale and so had a reasonable level of modelling experience to carryover. Today's modellors have been 'spoiled' with the volume of ready to run and so the requisite skill level is no longer needed.
I’m not a previous HO guy, I actually started my train hobby (minus the Christmas sets as a kid) in Large Scale…mainly for the “allowances” avail when you work outside. Now with 4 kids, I have little to no time to “Model” although I do enjoy the work as displayed above…it’s something to “Shoot for” one day in the future…all of you inspire me to ‘one day’…
Thanks!
cale
Man, that’s pretty nice. One of these days, I’ll figure out what to do with my old Stainz. That’s certainly one to consider!
I have to agree I prefere to model my own things. Even if Im not that good at it. Its fun trying to make something, saves a ton a money, gives me the experince to get better and it gives me the bragging right to say I built that from scratch (even if it really looks bad) and there is non like it.
The prices alone on some of this stuff is out of hand. That alone is enough motivation to build my own and learn how to.
On to the main topic that engine looks real nice. I cant wait to get my Hartland Big john and start painting it up and changing it around some.
Hey Tim , Great Bash, you’ve given me an idea for what to do with the same almost complete loco body John Bouck sent me in his box of workbench castaways. Like me I think were both obsessive/compulsive modelers, once we get an idea in our heads we have to build it through or go nuts.
I have to admit the GSM site is definelty different, but I actually find myself more active over there than on either of the sites over here, and its mostly due to the feedback, I suspect the fact that they’re are alot more guys doing the small layout, small rolling stock things helps alot. I dont know whats going on here in the US but I seems to me in the last couple years there has been a major shift in the US LS community away from kitbashing and towards RTR with a major emphisis on standard gauge modeling. Theres still a good narrow gauge presence but even that has gone very much towards the out of the box aspects.
I’ve gotten to the point where I’m thinking to stop doing building logs and just post finish pics, simply because the logs often only a handfull of replies or input, and quite frankly its alot of work to take appropriate pictures during construction, editing titles, uploading then composing the text and posting pictures online thru the coarse of construction. 4 years ago kitbashing new projects was popular and fun, alot of people were inspired, now its like no one cares…or more likely what I’m doing just doesnt have the same curb appeal it did a few years ago. Oh Well… 
As a diehard modeler, I like the building logs. They may not always apply to something I’m doing or planning to do, but even then there are usually some useful things to be learned.
Model railroading, whether indoors or out, is a hobby that can be enjoyed in many ways. Some folks only want to run trains and are more interested in operation than in modeling. Some just want to watch trains going round and round and don’t really care about scenery or making models. And some don’t have time to build, but want to have something to run until they do get time. I think there will always be more people in these categories, than those who actually build models – especially in these days of instant gratification when do-it-yourself skills aren’t encouraged.
But also I think a lot of folks sell themselves short. They’ve convinced themselves that they can’t model. Maybe they tried and were dissatisfied with their crude first effort, giving up before they’ve had a chance to polish their skills. Or they think you have to be a master craftsman and give up without ever trying at all.
Hope you don’t stop the building logs, Vic.
Very informative. Just because we don’t reply until you are finished doesn’t mean we are not watching.
Ralph
Similar using an Otto. Tims cylinders look better, mine are way too big
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Vic,
building logs do provide inspiration to potential modellors. When an inexperienced ‘wanne be’ modellor sees a finished product, he is overwhelmed. However, step by step instructions help the inexperienced get over the inertia hurdle and say ‘I can do that.’
I do not do logs, as such, but try to show a model in its 'raw' state. Recently, I did an extended combine/RPO that was based on several donor coaches, all in their particular roadnames. While the photographs may seem strange, they did show the base models on which the final car was based. As with my recent 'Forney', you stated, I have a loco body and tender body like that, so I think that I will give it a go. I feel that even basic building logs provide encouragement.
At present I am building a freelance steam railcar. I had a surplus #2017 loco that had the tender robbed to build something else. I also had a #3012 coach that had been damaged in a previous life under foreign ownership. I thought, why not combine the two and come up with something different.I would love to do a builder’s log–although I doubt anyone has much to learn from my ham-handed “techniques.” But to be honest, I’d be embarassed. My work bench is such a huge mess, with three or four layers of tools, styrene bits, tubes of various glues, bits of wire, scraps and sheets of sandpaper, 500 little screws of different sizes, pieces of other projects–I’d spend more time cleaning up than I would building
I really admire people who have the habit of neatness in their work. I’m a pretty good cook, but the kitchen is a disaster when I’m done