Large Scale Central

For Jon

General Discussion
#1

Jon, After a bit of reflection. All politics all the time is, indeed, a bit much. So here we go. A week ago or a bit more the remenants of Fay came through and dumpped 12 inches of rain. In our little miniture world that would be 20 plus feet. Most of my damage was cosmetic. It did show me a few areas that could use improvment. This weekend I am hastily building a retaining wall and replaced some drains with larger pipe. The area held up nicely, but water did rise up to, but not over the track.

This is an area I had installed a culvert after some earlier rains. I needed something to slow the water down a bit. After this last rain, I realized I needed another pipe. When finished, the ridge will cross over beyond the track, with the track running through a short tunnel.

Here, my road lost a bit of definition with the dirt that washed over.

This is the only area of track where some mud washed over. The trains can still run as the inside of the rail is clear.

All in all, I was very happy to see that my country engineering worked so well. Now its time to buy a freight shed as I have used up all the free space Bob has provided. Just as well, I have been a freeloader depending on Bob’s generousity for far too long. Ralph

#2

It’s nice to see your efforts weren’t wasted because of the rain. I’ve recently started mixing “Quikrete Vinyl Concrete Patch” with my ballast at about a 3:1 ratio. The screenings always seemed to wash away after a heavy rain.Looks to be holding up well, but the big test will be “Old Man Winter”.

#3
Ken Brunt said:
It's nice to see your efforts weren't wasted because of the rain. I've recently started mixing "Quikrete Vinyl Concrete Patch" with my ballast at about a 3:1 ratio. The screenings always seemed to wash away after a heavy rain.Looks to be holding up well, but the big test will be "Old Man Winter".
I had entertained the thought of trying to "fix" the ballast. But I would like to keep things more flexible and easy to change. In the future I would like to replace my tight radius curves. Even if that doesn't happen, I'm sure I'll be entertaining changes to the line at some point. Ralph
#4

Thanks for the on-topic post Ralph :smiley: :smiley: Your new retaining wall looks great.

I just went through the same thing yesterday with T.S. Hannah. We received about 6 inches of rain in a few hours. I have a large curve built on a fill that is directly under the drip line of a huge Maple. I’m always re-engineering stabilization methods and replacing washed away ballast.

Ken - I’ve tried Tite-Bond II, didn’t last more than a few rainstorms. I think if I tried your method, because of the fill I’m on, I’d just end up loosing the fill below the ballast. I might test it anyway.

Gotta get back out there now and continue the clean-up.

#5

I have found that once the track is moved it does crumble as I replaced some aristo track with some AMS track. I was out checking it earlier today after all the rain we had yesterday and it looks good. That’s one of the main reasons I keep it to a 3:1 mixture.

#6
Jon Radder said:
Thanks for the on-topic post Ralph :D :D Your new retaining wall looks great.

I just went through the same thing yesterday with T.S. Hannah. We received about 6 inches of rain in a few hours. I have a large curve built on a fill that is directly under the drip line of a huge Maple. I’m always re-engineering stabilization methods and replacing washed away ballast.

Ken - I’ve tried Tite-Bond II, didn’t last more than a few rainstorms. I think if I tried your method, because of the fill I’m on, I’d just end up loosing the fill below the ballast. I might test it anyway.

Gotta get back out there now and continue the clean-up.


All we got from Hannah was a light shower. Many of the Gulf storms find their way through my area. A lot of the Atlantic storms too. Thankfully they don’t pack the wallop they have over water. We have had pretty severe “remnants” in the past.
Ralph

#7

At that culvert, maybe consider one large pipe vs 2 smaller ones?

Seams like a few leafs or debris would block those smaller pipes and you’ll be flooding. maybe a bigger pipe like a 2" or 3" PVC pipe? Just and observation.

#8
Victor Smith said:
At that culvert, maybe consider one large pipe vs 2 smaller ones?

Seams like a few leafs or debris would block those smaller pipes and you’ll be flooding. maybe a bigger pipe like a 2" or 3" PVC pipe? Just and observation.


Looks can be deceiving. That is a 3 inch pipe. But when you get 12 inches of rain in less than 12 hours, you need a second. The retaining wall area had two 2 inch pipes. I left them in and added two more three inch pipes. I don’t think I should have any problem with the drain system keeping up now. Unless one of these storms drops 18 inches or more.
I didn’t take a picture…but it was enough rain some firewood(not yet split) I had “floated” over 100 feet through the yard.
Ralph

#9

not one drop here in the Upstate…wow what a difference!

#10
Ralph Berg said:
Victor Smith said:
At that culvert, maybe consider one large pipe vs 2 smaller ones?

Seams like a few leafs or debris would block those smaller pipes and you’ll be flooding. maybe a bigger pipe like a 2" or 3" PVC pipe? Just and observation.


Looks can be deceiving. That is a 3 inch pipe. But when you get 12 inches of rain in less than 12 hours, you need a second. The retaining wall area had two 2 inch pipes. I left them in and added two more three inch pipes. I don’t think I should have any problem with the drain system keeping up now. Unless one of these storms drops 18 inches or more.
I didn’t take a picture…but it was enough rain some firewood(not yet split) I had “floated” over 100 feet through the yard.
Ralph

My bad then, looked to me like 1-1/2" diameter PVCs, looks are decieving. :smiley:

#11
Cale Nelson said:
not one drop here in the Upstate....wow what a difference!
This was from Fay.........I guess about 2 weeks ago now. I did get some light showers from Hannah. Rlph