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Floor covering idea?

So I am looking for thoughts ideas experiences on rubberized or epoxy garage floor coatings. I need to get my basement put back together from the flood (its been almost a year). One of the issues we had was tearing out all the old flooring. I want to put back something that looks nice but also will withstand another flood. This space is prone to it in that A) its a basement and B) its where my hot water tank is. I considered tile and that is the current plan. I had considered just a paint; but really don’t care for plain paint on cement. A friend has that rubberized floor coating in his garage. I kinda like the looks and it is supposed to be 100% water proof and would cost me pennies to coat the entire floor.

Anyone have any thoughts on this stuff. I am looking at Rust-Oleum RockSolid I am thinking this metalic silver.

I’d go with the rubber. Easier to maintain. Paint wears out in high traffic areas.

I assume that the basement is below grade and is concrete, correct? Since you’ve already been flooded at least once, I’d also assume that this will occur again in the future.

In my experience and knowledge there is not any type of coating the will genuinely not fail with the incursion of groundwater or moisture in a below grade basement. The last product that I used, and had fail, was USG’s DRYLOK® Extreme Masonry Waterproofer. After about a year there were a number of small bubbles and blistering on the exterior walls of the basement mostly near the bottom by the uncoated floor.

I would consider something like indoor outdoor carpet tiles if I had the desire for padded or rubberized flooring. Whatever I did, I would assume that there will be another flood and just accept that things might get wet.

If it is just an esthetic issue and no real need to cushion the floor you might consider using concrete acid stain. Since these cause a chemical reaction with the lime in the concrete they are very durable and do not “seal” the surface and attempt to resist the hydrostatic pressures that some type of coating would endure. They allow moisture to migrate through the slab.

If you have “deep” pockets, you might consider a product like Greatmats. I have been in a couple of basements that use similar products and they were quite nice.

My current basement, even after all of the proper waterproofing and drainage systems and pumps, still had some water incursion. The “final” solution was to pour a capping slab and the basement has been dry since 2002. As long as the pumps continue to operate when the groundwater is high all is well. I did get advice, after initial construction, that no one puts a basement in a house on the valley floor. Hey, it seemed like a good idea at the time and I don’t really regret it.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Mark,

First I appreciate your obviously knowledgeable input. You have given me some food for thought. Let me clarify my situation for you and see if this may or may not change your input. The “flooding” is not from external water entering the basement. The flooding that took place was from a waterline that had been leaking behind a wall and finally gave out and on another occasion was from a flooded bathroom upstairs thanks to my kid. I have had no obvious water come in from the outside. This basement is built on a 300 feet deep gravel bed aquifer that drains water like a sieve. Ground water flooding is not at all an issue I am concerned with. One issue that I will resolve is that there are no drains in the floor. It is basically a swimming pool. Where the water tank and plumbing are I intend to put a drain and fashion some sort of a damn to hold any leaking water in the utility room and force it down a drain. Being on that gravel it will be as easy as sinking a piece of perf pipe. That should help with any minor flooding reaching the main portion of the basement. the rest of the basement would only be subject to the rare plumbing disaster.

Mark,

The greatmats raised mat tiles is a very cool product. Expensive, but maybe just what the doctor ordered. I like the fact that it is not really permanent and if flooding were to occur the floor could be lifted dried and laid back down. Since the entire space doesn’t need to be covered in flooring the amount of tiles would be cut way down. I would go around the cabinets instead of under them like I would with tile or rubberized floor. That just maybe the ticket.

that makes for a very nice looking floor and would certainly work well in that space. Being raised water could make its way to a drain. And if worse comes to worse the whole thing can be taken out dried and relaid. I am liking this.

Devon:

Well, based upon your description, all of the leaks were “self inflicted”, lucky you! (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

I think adding some drainage is a prudent idea. You might consider some type of water detector alarm to warn of leaks in the future.

At a minimum I would suggest that you test for radon if you haven’t already done so. If your house has been previously radon “proofed”, just drilling holes for water drainage might reintroduce the gas so you need to use an appropriate floor drain radon trap.

Also, before considering some type of coating I would perform a moisture test to verify if there is any reasonable issue. This is best done in the rainy season or in the summer if you do landscape watering around the perimeter of the basement. I’m guessing that unless your basement is properly waterproofed there is the distinct possibility that there will be some level of evaporation from the aquifer that makes it through the floor.

Mark,

Most definitely the leaks were self inflicted not to mention the lack of drainage also. See I built the damn thing; at least the addition which has the basement portion. I should have realized the drain issue but it got over looked and no one from the building department, my architect, nor the guys doing the concrete work mentioned it. I certainly did not know from experience (or the lack there of), but common sense should have dictated it.

Now radon is a good call. Radon was a big deal in our area and everything had to be tested and what not. But that seems to have fallen by the wayside. I Know when I did the basement install I was not required to test for or mitigate for it. But that is a good question to ask. If i had too, I suppose a small sealed vault in the floor with a lift pump/sump pump in it would work. I have easy enough access for the discharge pipe to either enter the sewage lines or discharge outside. But a good question to ask for sure.

Good info Mark. I had been considering an epoxy coating myself. Most of my basement is either terracotta tile or concrete. There is indoor-outdoor carpet over most of it and it has flooded as deep as 3 inches several times since we moved here in 1990. Where there is uncovered concrete it was painted before I bought the house. All of that paint has failed. I get some water through the block walls at times due to failed curtain drains that I can’t repair for numerous reasons. indoor/outdoor carpet tiles sounds like the best solution for me when I can afford it. I might give the epoxy a try in a small area as a temporary fix, but I will look into the acid too.

Jon Radder said:

indoor/outdoor carpet tiles sounds like the best solution for me when I can afford it.

Ask folks you know who work for big companies. Especially financial institutions. They change out the tiles about every 10 years and will give them away rather than pay to dispose of them. The commercial grade tiles are usually 3’ square and of much better quality. I’ve acquired many from my employer and by picking through them you can find ones like new that were under file cabinets, corners, etc.

edit: 3’ square

I’m a Water Plant Operator at the municipality I work for, and we’ve applied this to the floors in our water towers and water plants. Extremely durable, and waterproof when applied per the directions. One of our towers has a garage under it, and they store equipment in there for the Village’s annual Summer Fest, so there is a lot of wear and tear from pulling stuff across the floor, and using forklifts. There has been no damage to the coating since it was applied in 2001.

http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4326055&msclkid=4c6a8063ce611109e73ddada6c95c356&cid=CAPLA:B:Shopping_-_Tape/Adhesives/Fasteners/Sealants&utm_term=4581527514644654&bingpla=bingpla_8230738&utm_campaign=Shopping%20-%20Tape/Adhesives/Fasteners/Sealants&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&k_clickid=fa21fa95-5c54-4497-992a-16dcd476da23&utm_content=Sealants

Damn water guys. You can’t trust them as far as you can throw them. I know cuz I is one

Devon Sinsley said:

Damn water guys. You can’t trust them as far as you can throw them. I know cuz I is one

Whoa there Devon, I resemble that remark (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

Devon Sinsley said:

Damn water guys. You can’t trust them as far as you can throw them. I know cuz I is one

But, if you throw a water guy, doesn’t he splatter?

David Maynard said:

Devon Sinsley said:

Damn water guys. You can’t trust them as far as you can throw them. I know cuz I is one

But, if you throw a water guy, doesn’t he splatter?

Depends on how tall the structure is (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-yell.gif)

Devon Sinsley said:

that makes for a very nice looking floor and would certainly work well in that space. Being raised water could make its way to a drain. And if worse comes to worse the whole thing can be taken out dried and relaid. I am liking this.

That’s quite a basement Devon…uhmm just what kind of meetings do you hold down there?

This is something you might also want to look into. If the leak is from an upstairs bathroom coming through the ceiling you can at least mitigate the damage downstairs.

I think there is also a wireless one where you could put floor sensors in bathrooms, kitchens or where ever water valves are present upstairs.

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Boomer K. MOGWAI said:

Devon Sinsley said:

that makes for a very nice looking floor and would certainly work well in that space. Being raised water could make its way to a drain. And if worse comes to worse the whole thing can be taken out dried and relaid. I am liking this.

That’s quite a basement Devon…uhmm just what kind of meetings do you hold down there?

lol. Thats not my actual basement although it would be nice.

Boomer K. MOGWAI said:

Devon Sinsley said:

that makes for a very nice looking floor and would certainly work well in that space. Being raised water could make its way to a drain. And if worse comes to worse the whole thing can be taken out dried and relaid. I am liking this.

That’s quite a basement Devon…uhmm just what kind of meetings do you hold down there?

Devoning…Image result for poking a stick smiley