Steve Featherkile said:
How 'bout a two story two holer?
Bou I would hate to be the guy on the bottom floor
So I came up with an interesting idea that I personally have never seen modeled that would be fun, whimsical, practical, and even plausibly prototypical. A fire fight car. St Maries River Railroad has a tank car with pumps on it, I found this cool model on the net
I am thinking a manual pump such as this
I could use a spare tender shell for the tank with the coal bin being hose storage and have a hand pump mounted to it. Might be a fun idea.
There you go back to a prototype again!
I did mine more of a whimsy/battery car … 
The steam pump is on the other side… Critters stole my hand made nozzle … all brass. The 2 vents on top are rotary switches.
There is a full motion monitor nozzle on the platform. That’s built on a slope back tender frame.
The end hoses plug into the tender’s water tank… I picked those plugs for their non-shorting configuration
John
I think you found your idea.
John,
I like that car. And I am certain that while plausible that CR&N could have had one I seriously doubt it so It wouldn’t technically be prototypical (that’s how I am justifying it). And made in 1880’s fashion I can have some whimsy; though not over the top.
Steve,
I do think I have my idea. This could be a fun little build. I already am dreaming it up in my head. And since we are going to start having op sessions it is incentive to finally get loco running and will need this little transition car. I see a tender tank on a sturdy shorty flat car with the hand operated pump rig on top on a platform and then a place to store hose in the coal bin and maybe a manifold to connect hoses to. L&P on one side and a Kaydee or some other coupler on the other side.
well, it is just a “one-holer”, but it fits your timeframe.
I love it Korm. I am torn between these two ideas
Devon, so build both, and run whatever one strikes your fancy that day. (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)
David Maynard said:
Devon, so build both, and run whatever one strikes your fancy that day. (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)
David, I don’t like you…(http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-surprised.gif). Thing is the outhouse car would be easy to build. So doing both would be do able. We will see. So many projects… but this one might have to move up because it means running trains sooner.
Devon Sinsley said:
David Maynard said:
Devon, so build both, and run whatever one strikes your fancy that day. (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)
David, I don’t like you…(http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-surprised.gif). …
Devon, a lot of people don’t like me anymore.(http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif) It doesn’t bother me like it used to. (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-laughing.gif)
David Maynard said:
Devon Sinsley said:
David Maynard said:
Devon, so build both, and run whatever one strikes your fancy that day. (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)
David, I don’t like you…(http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-surprised.gif). …
Devon, a lot of people don’t like me anymore.(http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif) It doesn’t bother me like it used to. (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-laughing.gif)
I think I will be building both. I have mulled it over and can’t decide between them so both are in the works I think.
So I shouldn’t mention any other options, like a tool car, blacksmith car, paymaster car…nothing like that then?
And now a word from reality…
You may be happier with a more nondescript car as your transition car, it’s always going to be there on foreign roads.
Down here in the desert a canteen car is/was practical, but a firefighting car? Not so much.
The next one will be drab and an after thought; oh yeah, that car is always there… never gave it much thought… Perfecto!
John
John Caughey said:
And now a word from reality…
You may be happier with a more nondescript car as your transition car, it’s always going to be there on foreign roads.
Down here in the desert a canteen car is/was practical, but a firefighting car? Not so much.
The next one will be drab and an after thought; oh yeah, that car is always there… never gave it much thought… Perfecto!
John
John,
I have come to respect your opinions on such matters. However this car is going to be all about building something fun that I wouldn’t normally build. It serves a purpose as a transition car but also for a bit of creative lisc. Reality doesn’t need to be a part of the equation. It will allow me to take my locomotive and play with others. It will not have anything to do with authenticity. I mean this last weekend my 1880’s narrow gauge would have been pulling modern steel box cars, tank cars, wooden Ice reefers not to mention being way out of scale in size. So having something that is nondescript so as to match any given scenario really isn’t a big concern of mine with this car.
I see where your going with a utilitarian car that serves its purpose but if one were to go that route then just doing a coupler that fits in the L&P pocket would be far more practical than even a transition car.
David Maynard said:
So I shouldn’t mention any other options, like a tool car, blacksmith car, paymaster car…nothing like that then?
Why no…no you shouldn’t.(http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif) So glad you refrained. No what I should do is follow Steves advice and have a flat that is pulling and M1 tank. That would e right at home behind a 2-6-0
A floating idea must be the cure to a sinking feeling?
Tom Ruby said:
A floating idea must be the cure to a sinking feeling?
I generally find that my floating ideas results in a sinking feeling.
Living in North Idaho in the middle of the woods can put a railroad at the mercy of forest fires. Not wanting to sit back and watch as fire consumes the railroad facilities; the boys at Coeur d’Alene Railway and Navigation Company decided that they needed to be able to respond rapidly in case of fire. They had made a purchase of three old locomotives from the Texas and St Louis Railroad but one of them had seen its better days and was scrapped. However the tank on the old tender was a little rusty but still in decent shape and was saved. The boys got the idea to put the tank on a shorty flat car that was used in the original construction of the line but wasn’t used to much any more. So they went to work. They fit the tank to the flat car and used the fuel storage area for holding hose. The got the boiler maker to fit some plumbing to it and they built a deck on top and mounted a hand pump. With the addition of ladders and handrails they had on their hands a dandy fire fighting car that could be deployed quickly to fight fires on the line.
The is 100% scratch built. The flat car is made from Oak in the same fashion as the other flat cars I am building. Since the car is short I only used two truss rods to keep clear of the wheels. Speaking of wheels I used a plastic set of Bachmann Big Hauler tender trucks. I will replace the wheels with metal ones. For the tank I used .020 styrene and some styrene tube for the back corners and 1/2 sprinkler pipe for the front corners. The deck is red wood. The pump is mostly bits of scrap styrene and some wood. Now the coolest part is the plumbing and hose. Can anyone guess where this came from. Yep bought a clay extruder and pressed out some sculpy. Neat trick I learned from the fire truck build here. The some brass wire for rails. I used the salt technique for the peeling chipped paint.
I still have to add the link and pin coupler from the mold I made but I want to wait till I make a few plastic parts so I don’t waste resin. For now have the coupler mounted to the truck for that side. I will likely replace that with a Kadee before it is entered into service.
Devon,
That is REALLY cool!
Peeling paint, huh? And I first thought it was camouflage. (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-tongue-out.gif)
