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Flat car dimensions?

Modeling Rolling stock
#1

Boy how things change, but stay the same. I’m still looking for 1956 era, standard gauge flat car dimensions. I did a “Google search” and one of the finds was the same question in 2005 on the other site. It looks like the consensus was 46 foot length over the sills, 9 foot 4 inch width and 10 foot 2 inch width to outside of stake pockets. The only HO flat car I have handy is a bulkhead flat that is 50 ft over the sill, 10 ft width and 10 foot 6 inch outside of the stake pockets. Does anyone have a source of better info? Or can point me to a source? Thank you in advance for any time that is put into this.

If you are interested, we are talking about this in the modeling section of this forum.

http://largescalecentral.com/LSCForums/viewtopic.php?id=11928&p=1

#2

Ric, take a look [url=

(http://southern.railfan.net/flat/santafe/general.jpg)

]here[/url] for Santa Fe Sizes

#3

Ric,
I found information on a Piedmont Northern 7054 flat. The picture was from 1960 prior to repainting for MOW.
200,000 cap.
Outside length 45’3"
Outside width 9’

The PN had four of these. Steel decks. Fishbelly sills.
Ralph

#4

Steve,

Thank you, but I can’t seem to link to that. Have you got an address?

#5

Repaired Steve’s link HERE

#6

Oh wow, that’s another great list. Look at those length and width dimensions, they are all over the place.

Thank you.

#7

They are all over the place.
There isn’t any standard size standard gauge flat car.

#8

Hey Rick, the ICRR standard 50 tons flatcars was 54’-3" over strikers. The truck centers was 43’-3". The width over side sills was 9’-4" and over the decking was 10’-6". The car deck was 3’-5 1/2" above the rail and the bottom of the stringers was 10 1/2" above the rail. The car was 53’-6" over end sills.

#9

Ron and All,

I was measuring out a 53 foot standard gauge flat car and it comes to almost 33 inches long. These things are huge in standard 1:20.3 (F scale). Pretty neat stuff, trying to figure out a way to include it on the “Timesaver” on a bit of dual gauge trackage.

#10
Ric Golding said:
Ron and All,

I was measuring out a 53 foot standard gauge flat car and it comes to almost 33 inches long. These things are huge in standard 1:20.3 (F scale). Pretty neat stuff, trying to figure out a way to include it on the “Timesaver” on a bit of dual gauge trackage.


Some of us are sicker than others, huh, Ric?:lol:

#11
Ric Golding said:
Ron and All,

I was measuring out a 53 foot standard gauge flat car and it comes to almost 33 inches long. These things are huge in standard 1:20.3 (F scale). Pretty neat stuff, trying to figure out a way to include it on the “Timesaver” on a bit of dual gauge trackage.


At the convention in San Diego, one of the layouts had a standard gauge interchange with a boxcar on it. Most of the visitors to the layout asked the owner what gauge and scale it was. He said it was the same as the garden RR but built to “standard” gauge. Looked huge compared to the cars on the layout. Very interesting to say the least…:wink:

#12
Ken Brunt said:
Ric Golding said:
Ron and All,

I was measuring out a 53 foot standard gauge flat car and it comes to almost 33 inches long. These things are huge in standard 1:20.3 (F scale). Pretty neat stuff, trying to figure out a way to include it on the “Timesaver” on a bit of dual gauge trackage.


At the convention in San Diego, one of the layouts had a standard gauge interchange with a boxcar on it. Most of the visitors to the layout asked the owner what gauge and scale it was. He said it was the same as the garden RR but built to “standard” gauge. Looked huge compared to the cars on the layout. Very interesting to say the least…:wink:

That would have been Larry Rose’s Rio Verde Western…

#13

Rick, just a passing thought. If a 50’ flat car is huge in F scale, just think how long a 70’s era 89’ piggyback flat would be in F scale!

#14

Ya’ know Ric …I don’t believe in any of the posts on this build have you mentioned why you wanted this flat? Did you have a purpose for this car? Apparently not if your asking how to fit it into the Timesaver. However if you have the same condition I have… “it looks wicked cool and I just want it”…It’s called ADHD!
I’m trying to find my real dad and no one want’s me!
Were you in PA during the late 60’s?
:slight_smile:

#15

David,

I guess the reason for the standard gauge car is to help force the perspective of the small size of narrow gauge equipment.

I’ve got extra track and turnouts on the “Timesaver” that are not actually part of the the original puzzle. I had the choice of leaving the area empty or putting an extra storage track in to allow for the additional storage of rolling stock when the puzzle was not being played. Having the “standard gauge” car sitting there adds to the modeling aspect. Heck, I may add a Standard gauge engine made from a re-trucked Bachmann 45 tonner, also.

Why a flat car? It seemed it would be the easiest to building and transport to shows and would cost less.

#16

Dave -

I had a similar idea around the same time Ric did. My reason was to explain the size of the Bachman 45 Ton 1:20.3 locomotives that I have. That model is based on a Standard gauge prototype with narrow gauge trucks. The EBT used to re-truck standard gauge cars and run them down the narrow gauge track for delivery. I don’t plan on having any Standard gauge track in the near future, so my SG flat will sit on NG gauge trucks. When run in a 1:20.3 train with NG equipment it will illustrate the size difference between SG and NG.

:smiley:

#17

Ric, Jon…
Clarification Thanks …
Ain’t gonna learn if ya’ don’t ask questions?
:wink: