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Doing the GOP Proud!

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#21
Jerry Bowers said:
Ralph Berg said:
. . . is an embarrassment to the Republican party and the [b]State of Alabama[/b], (emphasis added)Ralph
Exactly why would Congressman Westmoreland be an embarrassment to Alabama? He is an elected representative of Georgia.

First we have “pregnant 7 year olds”, then a claimed secessionist who never participated in the so-called secessionist party, and now a Congressmen who is from more than one state. Wow, those conservatives are really bad folks!

Living in one of the most liberal areas of one of the more liberal states has shown me that the left really thinks there is a boogeyman behind every thought, statement, or action, and will frequently make and use statements that are really off the wall to prove their points. That kind of rabid response actually winds up defeating the original points.

I very politely suggest some of you guys who do nothing but attack, attack, attack need to take a couple of deep breaths between jabs.

Back on topic, I agree that Congress Westmoreland’s comment could be considered to have racial overtones, but similar to Obama’s denial that his proven dealings with the indicted criminal Rezko had absolutely no sinister content, I suggest accepting the Congressman’s explanation. It doesn’t make much difference to me, as to the best of my knowledge, he doesn’t also represent California.

Happy RRing,

Jerry


My mistake Jerry.
Somehow got Alabama in my head instead of Georgia.
I do many things besides attack.
I don’t accept his explanation. I’ve lived in the South for 28 years. I know exactly what he meant.
Who do you think he was trying to stop from voting by trying to block renewal of the 1965 voters right act?
Ralph

#22

Ralph,

What the heck is a “POS”?

#23

Well it isn’t a point of sale, that’s for sure!

#24

HJ,

Maybe that is what it is. I mean most politicians are for sale for a price, aren’t they?

#25
Ric Golding said:
Ralph,

What the heck is a “POS”?


Piece of sh*t.
A little harsh on my part. Maybe I’m “having a bad day”.
I live in the South. Have a few prejudices of my own. Just hard to comprehend there are still people around that want to take away an entire group’s right to vote.
I guess maybe many more people feel this way than I realize.
Ralph

#26

Thank you, now the rest of your comments are making sense. I understand now that you don’t think much of the guy. I can use that anacronym for most politicians and all the lawyers I know, so see we can agree on a few things. :wink:

#27
Ric Golding said:
Thank you, now the rest of your comments are making sense. I understand now that you don't think much of the guy. I can use that anacronym for most politicians and all the lawyers I know, so see we can agree on a few things. ;-)
:lol: :lol: :lol: Ralph
#28
Steve Featherkile said:
Brian,

Do you subscribe to a service that digs this stuff up for you, or do you spend your off hours digging on your own?

I’d agree, uppity describes someone who talks about the folks one way in Scranton, and another way with his uppity friends in San Francisco.


Nope to both. Caught this tidbit on the Colbert Report. Colbert interviewed this ass on his show a couple of years ago - http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/videos.jhtml?videoId=70730

-Brian

#29
Ric Golding said:
How in the world is someone suppose to know that using the word "uppity" now has racial over or under tones?
Ric,

Down South, the term “uppity” is usually followed by by “nigger” in reference to black people. Anyone who grew up there, especially a congressman from Georgia, would know that. That is why the interviewer asked a second time if that is Westmoreland meant.

-Brian

#30

Round here we also have local usage of words. A “furiner” is anyone not from this County and not related to the rest of the County. My wife and I were thought of as “furiners”, but then they found that my wife’s grandmother was from a local town, so she just married a "furiner’, me. Are children are “natives”, but we are all “family”.

#31

Found this in the comments section of another blog

"By Chet Hayes

September 5, 2008 1:58 PM |

This morning I called Westmoreland’s office:

Them: Good morning, Congressman Westmoreland’s office.

Me: Good morning, I would like to make a public comment. Them: Yes, sir, what is your comment?

Me: I would like to compliment Congressman Westmoreland on his comments yesterday about Barack Obama. We need more people like him to call a spade a spade. You crackers in Georgia must be very proud.

Them: [long pause] Sir, there’s no need to be insulting.

Me: I’m sorry, but how did I insult you? Them: There is no need to call me a cracker.

Me: I’ve never heard that term used in a derogatory sense. It is important to note that the dictionary definition of “cracker” is “a thin, crisp biscuit.” That’s what we meant by cracker when we used it in the city where I grew up.

Them: Well, that’s not how you meant it.

Me: Oh, so what you’re saying is that you don’t like being called names. Now you know how it feels.

Them: [another long pause] Sir, I have to take another call."

#32

I’ve been called a “Cracker” a few times. Never bothered me. I’ve been called a lot worse and I thought it was a descent description of a “white boy”.

#33

Thought a “cracker” was a native Floridian which got the name because back in the day when cattle drives were a happening they used whips (hence the “crack”) There are several million “crackers” some white, some black, depends on where you were born

#34

I don’t know where the term comes from, but I do believe people with dark pigments to their skin have called those of us with lighter pigments “crackers”, “honkies”, “gringos”, “rednecks” and many other terms, trying to come up with something that seems derogatory. So far, it hasn’t worked.

#35
Brian Donovan said:
Ric Golding said:
How in the world is someone suppose to know that using the word "uppity" now has racial over or under tones?
Ric,

Down South, the term “uppity” is usually followed by by “nigger” in reference to black people. Anyone who grew up there, especially a congressman from Georgia, would know that. That is why the interviewer asked a second time if that is Westmoreland meant.

-Brian


Thanks Brian, I was going to point out what the historicly traditional other missing “half” of the phrase was…Sheesh you think the guy in the public eye would know better, be interesting to see how much heat he catches now.

#36
Ric Golding said:
I've been called a "Cracker" a few times. Never bothered me. I've been called a lot worse and I thought it was a descent description of a "white boy".
Errr....If you knew what it ment in the black community, you might not be so smug about it, in this case I guess ignorance is bliss:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cracker

In my experience, its not just given to anyone, its usually a result of action or behavior on the person recieving it. If you’ve been called a “Cracker” to your face, it means you done something insensitive enough to have earned it…and no, I’ve never been called by that term, thank God.

#37

What the heck is “the black community”? That’s half the problem, there seems to be a desire for an equal but seperate life within the confines of the community of the United States. I’m sorry the Constitution was changed and that is not allowed. I think the so called “black community” doesn’t appreciate the fact that they have been given the right to fail.

“In my experience, its not just given to anyone, its usually a result of action or behavior on the person recieving it. If you’ve been called a “Cracker” to your face, it means you done something insensitive enough to have earned it…and no, I’ve never been called by that term, thank God.”

Victor, I thank you for your comment or explanation, and I understand what you are trying to say, but if that is true, that is absolutely rediculous.

What the heck is an urbandictionary?

#38

Not trying to pick a fight Ric, I have no idea of what context the words were used in, if it was in gest or a joking way between you and a freind, then I misread it and apologize if so. I was just trying to point out that in my experience, being called that is not a good thing, thats all, please dont read anything more than that into it.

As for the seperate communities issue, its always been that way though, good or bad, right or wrong, there have been and likely will always be a desire to establish some portion of seperate cultural identities within the larger confines of the American culture, be it Black, Latino, Italian, Polish, German, Irish, or anything. There is as much of a seperate cultural identity in the American cowboy culture as there is in in the African American HipHop culture, its just a part of America and has been since its founding. Its withing these individual cultures than we often get our next cultural or artistic movements, Hip Hop and Rap just being one of the more recent ones being an offshoot of inner city life in predominantly African American communites spread through word of mouth, radio, and records, just as the same way the Country music scene grew out of the Mid Atlantic states around Nashville also grew out of radio and records dispersing around the country, each has had a similar effect influencing our culture, again not pasing any right or wrong judgement, its just the way things have been, but within these individual identities new words and phrases originate and propogate and eventually become mainstream part of our language, “Howdy” as a greeting came straight from the country/western tradition where “Waz up, Dog” as a greating is a more recent influence of the urban scene on the language. They both come from a similar background.

The “Urban Dictionary” was created as a way to give neophites a chance to get an idea of what these new phrases and word mean in context with there influence on the english language. It has helped me to understand alot of slang I hear on in the media.

Read and learn, if your interested :wink:

#39

When I was nine years old I got called a ‘stinking kyke’ by the boy next door just before I laid him out with half a house brick.

This moment of epiphany, conjured out of thin air by the impact of about two pounds of brick at thirty miles an hour around the chops, altered his entire outlook on Judaism.

tac

#40
Terry A de C Foley said:
When I was nine years old I got called a 'stinking kyke' by the boy next door just before I laid him out with half a house brick.

This moment of epiphany, conjured out of thin air by the impact of about two pounds of brick at thirty miles an hour around the chops, altered his entire outlook on Judaism.

tac


So, are you suggesting Obama should pummel Rep. Westmoreland with a brick?

-Brian