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Dear Barac

This is an open letter to Barac Obama, written by Will Manly, late of the Hays, Kansas, Daily News. He recently joined the Navy and is now off to Boot Camp. He has some very interesting things to say.

Warning, political. If B. Husein Obama is your kinda guy, you probably won’t like this one.

I guess it is interesting if you share the same dark view of the world as this guy -

(http://www.newsgroper.com/files/post_images/cheney_grr.jpg)

Maybe my view of the world is a bit rosier and believe you should talk to your neighbor about a disagreement first before you take out your gun and shoot him. Seriously though, its just more of sound bite regurgitating sound bites. Who would this this guy vote for? McCain? I lost all respect for him after he bent over and took it up the butt from Dubya (1999 South Carolina primary smear campaign) and said “Thank you, Sir, may I have another?” Some think Ronny Reagan was the perfect President. I saw him as a doddering idiot who nearly caused me to drop out of college due to financial aid drying up. For me, it would have been Bill Clinton, if he could have kept his zipper closed. No perfect people, no perfect Presidential candidates. -Brian

Brian Donovan said:
I guess it is interesting if you share the same dark view of the world as this guy -

(http://www.newsgroper.com/files/post_images/cheney_grr.jpg)

Maybe my view of the world is a bit rosier and believe you should talk to your neighbor about a disagreement first before you take out your gun and shoot him. Seriously though, its just more of sound bite regurgitating sound bites. Who would this this guy vote for? McCain? I lost all respect for him after he bent over and took it up the butt from Dubya (1999 South Carolina primary smear campaign) and said “Thank you, Sir, may I have another?” Some think Ronny Reagan was the perfect President. I saw him as a doddering idiot who nearly caused me to drop out of college due to financial aid drying up. For me, it would have been Bill Clinton, if he could have kept his zipper closed. No perfect people, no perfect Presidential candidates. -Brian

This is a rosier view? Wow!

Yea, Wow!

Since when is it the governments responsibility to fund college education?

Neighbors talked to Hitler about their little disagreement till they were blue in the face. Neighbors talked to Tojo about their little disagreement till they were blue in the face. Maybe 2 bullets would have saved a couple million lives.

Obama will win. The Republicans screwed up royally over the last 8 years. The occupation of Iraq was grotesquely botched, Afghanistan is always threatening to burst into full flame. Bin Laden is still out there. The economy is in decline, real wages for all but the very wealthy have been stagnant–the Republican “brand” is in disrepute. You can’t keep cutting taxes and increasing spending. Poll data is really clear on this. Democrats are just as capable of screwing up, but the Republican started rising in 1980, and reached their peak after 2000. They blew it, the public is not listening to them the way it used to.

Obama will win in November. It won’t make much of a difference. The Democrats have a long history, since the 70s, of moving to the right whenever some one looks at them and frowns.

There will still be terrorists. The thing that stops them, and has stopped another attack on the US, is not invasions of other countries, its interdiction by intellgence services and special ops. It’s been working amazingly well, and it has nothing to do with either Bush or Obama–it’s career intelligence professionals in the federal security bureaucracy. They were there before Bush and they will be there after Obama. Obama signed onto the FISA/telsom immunity bill–he’s not going to change anything major

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Didn’t seem to work very well in the '90’s. Of course that’s when the intelligence agencies had their hands tied and their budgets cut and couldn’t gather all the information needed into one place and put the pieces together. 7 embassies bombed, a warship attacked, a failed first attempt at bringing down the World Trade Center. Personally I’m rather pleased the battle ground has moved from my back yard to theirs, that many Al-Quiada leaders are now buried in the sand somewhere, that we have 2 less terrorist sponsors to worry about, that maybe another democracy will be be born in the Middle east where none ever existed, that we have another ally in a war against terrorism.

Our Democratic majority in congress has a lower approval rating than Bush, so who knows what will happen in November. And I can’t see where raising taxes will help the economy either. Guess that leaves Congress with one alternative. Anybody wanna bet if that’ll happen?

Dear All,

Recommended (pre-election) reading:

America Alone by Mark Steyn

Sincerely,

Joe Satnik

Joe Satnik said:
Dear All,

Recommended (pre-election) reading:

America Alone by Mark Steyn

Sincerely,

Joe Satnik


Add to that

“It can’t happen here” by Sinclair Lewis

Ken Brunt said:
Yea, Wow!

Since when is it the governments responsibility to fund college education?

Neighbors talked to Hitler about their little disagreement till they were blue in the face. Neighbors talked to Tojo about their little disagreement till they were blue in the face. Maybe 2 bullets would have saved a couple million lives.


I guess higher education should be only for those who have money. It would have made much more sense for me to work as a clerk at Walmart than the 17 years I spent in biomedical research and the years since as a small business owner. The additional money I have added to the tax base by having a college education far exceeds any contribution the government made. Not to mention the additional contribution to society in general. That’s the difference between short sided thinking and having a vision for a better America.

There has to be a medium ground between ignoring the outside world as this country chose to do after WWI and stomping around like a bully with a big stick.

-Brian

Brian Donovan said:
Some think Ronny Reagan was the perfect President. I saw him as a doddering idiot who nearly caused me to drop out of college due to financial aid drying up. For me, it would have been Bill Clinton, if he could have kept his zipper closed. No perfect people, no perfect Presidential candidates.

-Brian


Brian,
I like you better every day!
As for the “doddering idiot”, he borrowed more money in 4 years than the country had borrowed in the previous 200 years. And this is the flag bearer for the conservatives.
Cut taxes, increase spending and borrow a crap load of money. Same blueprint our current President followed. No wonder, anybody who was still alive from the Reagan administration was in George W’s at the start.
I’m going to ask my boss to decrease my pay, buy all the LGB trains on eBay and borrow all the money I need to pay for it. Then I too, will be a conservative.
Ralph

Well, the doddering idiot destroyed the Soviet Union without direct conflict with them. We just outspent them militarily and outfoxed them with Starwars. Far better than the world being devastated by Nuc-u-lear War.

Revenues were doubled during the Regan Administration, a fact that is conveniently forgotten by those who opposed him. The Democrat controlled Congress voted in more entitlements during that administration than you could shake a stick at.

Steve Featherkile said:
Well, the doddering idiot destroyed the Soviet Union without direct conflict with them. We just outspent them militarily and outfoxed them with Starwars. Far better than the world being devastated by Nuc-u-lear War.

Revenues were doubled during the Regan Administration, a fact that is conveniently forgotten by those who opposed him. The Democrat controlled Congress voted in more entitlements during that administration than you could shake a stick at.


You give the man too much credit as far as the Soviets are concerned. We were able to borrow more money than they could. Now we are in the same boat 20 years later.
Revenues doubled. Yes, this was when they decided to remove food and energy costs from the consumer price index so they could quote 3% inflation and screw everyone collecting Social Security.
Sure revenue went up. Borrow a pile of money.Spend it with the rich and you get up to 35% of it back as revenue while you “hide” the real inflation figures.
During Ronnie’s second term the House and Senate were Republican. I’d have to look at the record to see about the first term.
Ralph

Words are a funny thing.
A. Entitlements and Welfare go to the poor.
B. Incentives and tax breaks go to the rich.
Now somebody tell me why welfare for the poor is a bad thing while welfare for the rich is a good thing.
Ralph

I certainly agree with you, Brian on going to college. I just don’t agree it’s a responsibilty of government to fund it or welfare or entitlements for the rich or poor.

Ken Brunt said:
I certainly agree with you, Brian on going to college. I just don't agree it's a responsibilty of government to fund it or welfare or entitlements for the rich or poor.
My younger brother has three children, my older brother two. All five graduated from US colleges.

Kay and I have four children. All four graduated from Australian universities (in, Oz, a “college” is usually what Americans call a high school).

It would be reasonable to suppose the fees Kay and I shelled out for our children would’ve been about 80% of what my brothers, together, paid for their children’s college tuition. In fact, the figure in US dollars is between 15 and 20 per cent.

The reason for the disparity is that the majority of Australians believe subsidising tertiary education IS a responsibility of government. It certainly isn’t the government’s alone, and our system allows parents who can afford it to pay their share of their children’s costs up front. Alternatively, the children can repay the cost themselves when they start working, or families can mix and match - the parents pay some of the tab up front, the children pick up the rest later.

Having personal experience of both the US and the Australian systems, I prefer the Australian. The funny thing is, you’d probably expect our taxes to be considerably higher to pay for it (and for our health system, which works similarly). In fact, US and Australian tax rates in my bracket are almost identical, and there’s none of the “alternative minimum tax” nonsense many millions of Americans have to deal with.

Even though all our kids are out of school, Kay and I have no problem seeing our taxpayer dollars funding the continued provision of tertiary education. We see an educated young workforce as an investment in Australia’s future, and we’re prepared to pay for it.

We got a call from our son-in-law this morning. He’s just qualified for his MC (multi-combination) licence, which lets him drive anything that’s legal on Australian roads except a motorbike. We’re thrilled for him, and feel a deep sense of satisfaction that the contribution we made to his training costs has helped him get the result he wanted. Australia needs good young truckies as well as good young doctors!

Good on ye, Dave.

Ralph, the doddering idiot had to contend with Democrat controlled congress for all eight years of his administration. You don’t really think that the Iran-Contra Hearings would have taken place during a Republican controlled Senate do you?

We do support university education with out tax dollars. Have you checked the difference between an education at you State Universities and, say, Stanford, Notre Dame, Harvard or Yale?

What is that phrase… “provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare?” It certainly doesn’t say provide the general welfare and promote the common defense.

madwolf

Sometimes a “big stick” is all a mad dog will understand. How many medium sized sticks do you hit him with before you realize he’s out of control. The UN had been throwing twigs at one for 10 years and all he did was chew them up and swallow them.

Steve Featherkile said:
Good on ye, Dave.

Ralph, the doddering idiot had to contend with Democrat controlled congress for all eight years of his administration. You don’t really think that the Iran-Contra Hearings would have taken place during a Republican controlled Senate do you?

We do support university education with out tax dollars. Have you checked the difference between an education at you State Universities and, say, Stanford, Notre Dame, Harvard or Yale?

What is that phrase… “provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare?” It certainly doesn’t say provide the general welfare and promote the common defense.

madwolf


Steve
In 1980 we had 53 Republican Senators and 46 Democrats.
In 1984 34 seats were up for re-election- with Republicans taking 19 seats to the Democrats 15, maintaining the Republican MAJORITY.
Now who are you going to blame for the Iran-Contra hearings and everything else that went wrong in the 80’s?
In both 1980 and 1984, the Democrats controlled the House of Representatives, where bills originate.
As we know, every bill from the House has to then pass the Senate before being signed by the President.
Republicans controlled the final and most important two steps of the legislative process.
Ralph

Here is a quote from former Senator Fritz Hollings. Yes, I know he is a Democrat. But this makes sense to me.

“The bloomin’ economists that are nothing more than lobbyists in Washington have taught us politicians, we senators, that we are economists and we’re going to stimulate, stimulate, stimulate. That’s exactly the problem: We’ve stimulated $4 trillion (in debt) in the last eight years” through tax cuts and financing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan with only a portion going to domestic spending, Hollings said."

Four trillion in debt in 8 years. Staggering figure.
The interest was crushing us. Now the principle is being paid by selling our assets.
Ralph

If you all think we have it bad just look at what the highest court in England just did. They declared that their resident muslim community could rule themselves under Shira law for their own internal disputes. This is the religious based legal system that all the radical muslim countries use. I guess England has given up ruling a part of their own country without a shot being fired. I wonder how long it will be before France, which has a larger muslim population than England, does the same thing.