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Converting a Bachmann 1:22.5 Tank Car to 1:20.3

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#41
Ric Golding said:
Why would you want it longer? Remember, in my case, the focus was to convert what I have. If I wanted to make it longer, I'd just start with something else or build from scratch.
Cause making the tank ends for a scale length 1:20 car are a pain! Actually Kevin is thinking along the smae lines as I am....I just need to have one in my hot little handses to do a little Imagineering.......
#42

Ric could you share with me the Ozark Part numbers you used? Steps and Pockets?..

anyone: what #1 Kadee would be used to body mount on this particular car…just found my Bachmann Tank Car “kit” and I’m gonna give it a go!

Thanks

cale

#43

“Ric could you share with me the Ozark Part numbers you used? Steps and Pockets?..”

1002 D&RGW double u-bolt stake pockets

1004 strap step 12", side sill mount

1018 Brake wheel w/ pawl

#44

Use a good ol 820 Cale…or 830 if yer G scaleing…

#45

Gary Buchanan just put a scale drawing of the EBT tank in his freight shed for me. If I am scaling the drawing correctly, the Bachman tank diameter is within 1 scale inch of perfect at 3.5" and then length is only short by 2.25". EBT’s tank being 6’ in Diameter and 27’ 3" long. Of course you then need a steel frame wood deck flat 8’ wide and 33’ 3" long to strap it to with wood blocking. The flat should be the easy part.

I just shipped Bart my two tanks to play with. If he does good, he gets to keep one :smiley:

#46

A quick correction to the drawings (rather to the notations on the drawings)… The frame of the tank car was black (as were all the EBT’s steel flats). The older wood flat which used to carry the tank car was red.

Later,

K

#47

Thanks Kevin -

So the steel flat is the second home for this tank? Are there any pictures of the wood flat version?

I also noticed that the plans seem to indicate a fishbelly flat, but the photos and my memory indicate a straight steel frame.

#48

Correct. The first home for this car was flat #102, a wood car dating from the early 1900s. The tank first appeared on the EBT in the 1910s, with the tank being owned by Atlantic Refining. (Black tank with red and white “Atlantic Refining” sign on the side–refer back to the photo on page 2 of this thread.) Whether they leased the flat car it rode on, or bought it for that purpose is unknown. The railroad acquired the tank (or the entire car) in 1932, and painted it for the railroad. To my knowledge, it spent most of its post-AR career hauling water to the mines and reservoirs. At some point after tourist operations began, it was fitted with a hose for fire suppression.

I’m not convinced the fishbelly is quite as pronounced as illustrated in the drawing, but yes, the center beams of the car did have a bit of a fishbelly to it. The side sills are flat.

If you’ve got a copy of Don Heimberger’s Along the East Broad Top, there are photos of both cars in there. It’s very clear from the photo of the tank on the steel car that it was moved from the wood one. (The photo caption

Later,

K

#49

Thanks again Kevin. That’s the next book on my Wanted list :smiley:

#50

Sitting here trying to determine exactly how “wide” your finished car is…so I headed over to Accucraft and here are the specs. on their flat (the car it appears you conceived the width from)…now I can get started!!!

SPECIFICATIONS

Length 509 mm (20 in.)
Width 126 mm (5 in.)
Height 80 mm (3 1/8 in.)
Minimum radius 1.2 M (48 in.)

thanks again for this thread!

cale

#51

Cale,

The measurements on my converted 1:20.3 Tank Car

Length = 15 1/4 inches (end beam to end beam)
Width = 5 inches outside of pole pocket to outside of pole pocket)
Height = 7 inches (top of rail to top of the dome)
Minimum radius = unknown (makes it around 6 1/2 foot diameter with body mounted couplers - no problem)

#52

NOTE:

I accidentally posted those above numbers in this thread vs. the HLW Thread…Sorry!

But Thanks Ric for the numbers on the tanker!..see other thread for my dimensions on the HLW Flat I am upsizing.

cale