Large Scale Central

Converting 1:24 Flat Car to 1:20.3

I decided to do a little size modification on a HLW 1:24 Flat Car. I had already invested in body mounted couplers and steel wheels, but the overal size was looking just too small for what I now wanted. This actually is a test fit for wanting to change some 1:22.5 Bachmann Tank Cars on Flat Cars to 1:20.3. My objective was to not change the length, but to change the width. This would cause a 26 ft 1:24th flat car to a 22ft 1:20.3 flat car. It would also back date them to smaller, more worn equipment era. Some of my ideas came from Kevin Strong’s work he shows on his website. The first step was to remove coupler pockets and a little overhang of the decking. I did this with my bandsaw.

I then cleaned off the molded in ladders and flash from the bandsaw with a hobby knife and razor saw.

I glued some scrap wood on the sides that matched the profile of the side of the flat car. This was glued on with regular epoxy that takes overnight to dry. I held it in place with clamps. I used teak, because I have a whole bunch of scrap. I then glued coffee stir sticks on with first trying regular epoxy and then went to 5 minute epoxy because it held better in a short period of time. The completed car was painted with flat box car red latex, that I buy from the local hardware store by the quart after having it blended to the exact color I want.

Here it is end to end against an AMS 1:20.3 Flat Car.

Some Ozark Minatures details are ordered and will be applied as time allows.

Pretty neat, Ric. But, 1:20.3??? What happened to 1:21.4?

I like the looks of your mod better than the AMS model. Nothing like real wood!

Gee Ric, it looks kinda beat up.

Are you sure that you want such decrepit equipment rolling on your layout? Isn’t that a safety hazard?

There is a railroad car bone yard that my railroad serves, just send the car by common carrier and I will take care of disposal for you.

:lol:

And, may I recommend a wash of India Ink and Alcohol? It will really bring out the grain in that wood.

Looking good so far :smiley: I have a ton of 1:24 stuff so I’ll be following your results closely. The Bachman tanks are a really good candidate for this treatment,. The flat they ride on in the weakest part of them - the tanks themselves have nice detail.

Nice work Ric

Are you going to add stake pockets on the side?, just looks kinda bare to me as is.

Victor,
Yes, “parts are parts” and have been ordered. Will be installed as they arrive. Notice, one brake hose line valve already installed.

I agree with Bruce…nothing so nice for a wooden car as well…wood…and I agree with Bruce’s suggestion of a wash…might I also recoomend it you haven;t done the other decks yet, to leave one or two randomly as raw wood as if the deck board had been replaced…

Ric’s crew would NEVER replace a board without painting it… :wink:

Personally, I think Ric would be the only one replacing a board… The rest of us would be heading out for snow crab legs…

hehehe

I’ve bought up a few (and plan to get more) HLW Flats to use to haul logs and build up low side gons too! Nice job, it looks more “real” than the AMS!

cale

Andy Clarke said:
Personally, I think Ric would be the only one replacing a board.... The rest of us would be heading out for snow crab legs..........

hehehe


Now that’s funny!!!
Nice mod Ric…nice band saw as well…I gotta get me one of those real soon!

Rick
What size of wood did you add to the outside of the car??? Also what kind and color of paint did you use??
Great looking cars. Might try something like that with some B-mans I have.
Rodney

The wood is just some scrap teak I had that I cut to the dimensions to make the width the same as the Accucraft 1:20.3 flat car. The color is called “Burnt Sienna” or “Box Car Red”. I had it mixed at the local hardware store. Purchased by the quart in flat exterior latex. You can take any small jar of model paint and either take the bottle or a piece of wood or plastic that you have painted and they will stick it under their computer’s lens and create the exact same color. Here are some more pictures as progress continues adding Ozark Minature detail parts.

(http://www.lscdata.com/users/rgolding/081208%20001.jpg)

(http://www.lscdata.com/users/rgolding/081208%20002.jpg)

(http://www.lscdata.com/users/rgolding/081208%20003.jpg)

(http://www.lscdata.com/users/rgolding/081208%20004.jpg)

(http://www.lscdata.com/users/rgolding/081208%20005.jpg)

(http://www.lscdata.com/users/rgolding/081208%20006.jpg)

Gee Whiz Ric - They’re going to make a master modeler out of you yet :smiley: This looks really good - a nice “shorty” flat. Great job.

Did you use epoxy to glue the white metal details in place?

Ray Dunakin said:
Did you use epoxy to glue the white metal details in place?
Yes, its a 5 min epoxy and holds very well. It doesn't crystalize and fail like CA.

Hey, Ric, do you know anybody that sells that 5 minute epoxy?

Steve Featherkile said:
Hey, Ric, do you know anybody that sells that 5 minute epoxy?
Steve,

Not pushing product, but we sell it at the marina, fairly large mail order business. Contact me offline if I can help you out.

[email protected]

A couple of more pictures of the progress -

(http://www.lscdata.com/users/rgolding/081210%20002.jpg)

About all that is left is the grab rails, that have not arrived yet

(http://www.lscdata.com/users/rgolding/081210%20003.jpg)

and a little black wash weathering that has been recommended.