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CN derailment #2 in Alberta

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/10/20/derailed-cn-train-cars-continue-to-burn-forcing-more-than-120-people-from-their-homes-west-of-edmonton/

That is not really the recommendation one is looking for to promote “Oil by Rail”.

The increase in the volume of oil shipped by rail is staggering. According to the Toronto Star newspaper Canadian volume is up 28,000% since 2009 .According to the Canadian Railway Association loads have in creased since 2009 from 500 to 140,000

Stuart,

What is puzzling: why are there so may derailments with tankers? It would be interesting to see the statistics on that e.g. # of derailments per 100’00miles of tankers compared to grain hoppers or coal gons.

Hans-Joerg Mueller said:

Stuart,

What is puzzling: why are there so may derailments with tankers? It would be interesting to see the statistics on that e.g. # of derailments per 100’00miles of tankers compared to grain hoppers or coal gons.

Perhaps its not that there are so many more derailments with tankers than with Grangers, but that “If it bleeds, it leads.” Face it, a tanker derailment plays right into the wheelhouse of the journalist who has this deepseated distrust of anything to do with the transport of fossil fuels.

Oh, dear, I’m beginning to sound political, aren’t I? I’ll shut up. But you know I’m right, don’t you? (http://www.freerails.com/images/emoticons/gerg.gif)(http://www.freerails.com/images/emoticons/wink1.gif)(http://www.freerails.com/images/emoticons/Moosie.gif)

I’d rather have actual statistics. :wink:

http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/stats/rail/2013-06/r2013-06-t5.asp

Would I like fries with that? Naw, not really!

Hans-Joerg Mueller said:

I’d rather have actual statistics. :wink:

http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/stats/rail/2013-06/r2013-06-t5.asp

Would I like fries with that? Naw, not really!

HJ, you should really reconsider on the fries, as they are the only substantial thing you will get out of that report. Cars with “Dangerous Goods,” could be anything from High Fructose Corn Syrup to Nuclear Waste. Well, maybe I exaggerated a little bit, but only a little. (http://www.freerails.com/images/emoticons/yahoo.gif)

Dangerous goods would be anything labeled as Haz Mat. And Steve you would be suprized at what is considered Haz Mat. You too can read your own copy of the 2012 Emergency Response Guidebook if you ever get bored.

http://phmsa.dot.gov/staticfiles/PHMSA/DownloadableFiles/Files/Hazmat/ERG2012.pdf

For a sample of what is considered dangerous…

Page 122 of the 2008 edition.

“Explosives” Duh!

“Extracts, aromatic”

“Extracts, flavoring”…

“First Aid Kit”…

“Fish Scrap, unstabilized”

“Fish Scrap, stabilized”

Probably exhausted frying oil, too.

Anyway, have a look at the provincial distribution of those “events”.