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Choosing a DTV Converter

If there are any TV / Electronics gurus among us, I could use some advice in choosing a DTV Converter box for my travel trailer.

I need to get in on this before the coupons are no longer available. I ordered up my coupons yesterday and should see them near the end of the month so I started to shop around. It looks like there is very little in real product comparison available, making this a tough choice.

On the trailer I have a 19" LCD TV. Unfortunately it was one of the last analog only models, but I got it real cheap on close out. It’s a nice TV with every type of input except HDMI. I’m thinking I’d rather have a DTV box that supports at least S-Video if not Component Video, but maybe that’s not important.

So -

My TV will supports progressive scan (I think its 720p) and 16:9 format, so should I consider and HD Receiver instead ?

I’m not even sure there are any DTV Converters made with Component Video outputs but I know some have S-Video, so how important is the higher quality connection between a DTV Converter and the set ?

Any recommendations for a website with good product comparisons ?

Any recommendations for a specific DTV Converter?

Thanks :smiley:

Hi Jon,

Funny this came up. I have been researching these for the couple of TVs I have that are off the grid.
This is the best site I found for advice - http://site.dtvboxanswers.com/reviews
They have decent prices and accept the coupons.
I just ordered my coupons a couple of days ago.

-Brian

Thanks Brian. I’ll check it out. Let me know what you decide on.

Ya think the fact that the TV News has a Countdown to Darkness every night might have motivated us to get off our asses and get the coupons ???

I’m looking at the Tivax STB-T8 and the MicroGem MG2000. I’m actually pretty pissed about the whole thing. The over the air digital signal is disrupted by air traffic. We’re 15 miles from BWI, so that’s pretty frequent. It might be better with a real antenna but that’s just another expense. Also, during football season I usually carry around a portable TV with me when I am outside doing yard work or working on the trains. I have found a total of one! portable digital TVs on the market and have not heard great things about it.

-Brian :frowning:

Just because it’s new technology doesn’t men it’s better…

/ Rant On

Remember how clear long distance phone calls used to be? Not any more thanks to digital long distance. Save bandwidth by using a low sample rate. The now generation doesn’t care if it sounds like crap, they don’t remember what it used to sound like.

Same goes for recorded music quality. In this case, the early digital revolution did make it better, for a short period of time. CD’s with high sample rates sounded great. But then along came portable music players and the desire to fit 100 songs in 1 Megabyte of storage. Compress the sound, digitize it at a low sample rate then compress it some more. Sounds worse than my dad’s Victrola and 78 RMP records. The kids love it. I can’t figure out why.

You hear and see poor quality every night on the TV news. What ever happened to the term Broadcast Quality ? Now it’s OK to show video clips shot on a cell phone that are pixelated and jump frames with audio tracks that have so much aliasing it’s hard to understand them.

Even early cell phones sounded pretty good. They used analog technology. But - if we go digital we can fit 10 times as many phone calls in the same air space. The users don’t care that the calls sound like crap 'cause now they can call from the crapper :o

Don’t get me started :smiley:

The Audiophiles of the late 60’s understood that New does not equal Better. They were instrumental in keeping tube technology around for a long time. It’s dying out pretty fast now because there aren’t enough people left who remember how good Hi Fi sounded. Musicians are the last bastion for tube amps. Today as long as the bass will rattle the screws out of your car it sounds good. I threw away my last tube amps about 15 years ago when I couldn’t get replacement tubes anymore.

In the case of TV we’re being screwed by the government (what else is new). They want the bandwidth for other services. A previous attempt to go digital failed with push back by consumers and TV stations. This time the government got it through by by regulating the change and paying most of the consumer’s cost with coupons.

Give me a DOS based computer, an analog phone and a couple of Hi Fi Speakers with 15" woofers connected to a powerful tube amp and a vinyl disc player with a good cartridge and I’ll be a happy camper. You can keep your IPod and Earbuds, but I’m stuck with DTV 'cause their shoving it up our butts.

/ Rant Off

:smiley:

Brian Donovan said:
The over the air digital signal is disrupted by air traffic.
So is analog. I grew up one mile from Andrews AFB, and could count on serious ghosting every time we were overflown. The difference lies in how each method deals with signal loss. An analog signal ghosts or snows--picture quality simply waxes and wanes in proportion to the quality of the signal. Minor interference results in a slight signal degradation, but is not usually all that noticeable. Digital is different. Digital gives you a very sharp, clear picture under circumstances where you'd get minor ghosting or snow in an analog signal. However, when the signal gets really out of whack, it loses its reference from one frame to the next, and freezes until it has a clean signal again. Thus, you go from rock solid to total crap and back instead of a slow migration from pretty good to moderately questionable and back.

The problem in digital is not in the digital signal, it’s in the compression of that signal. The more compression, the more crap you see. You put 5 channels through a single coax cable, and you don’t have to compress anything. Put 500 channels through, different story. However, if you’re a cable company, guess which model gets customers?

I produce HD programming. Even though I’m in a digital, “lossless” world, I know what comes in off the disk from the field will look better than what I see in my living room. It’s the technology. As compression algorithms get better, the compression will become less noticeable, but it will never go away. But, I’ll take an over-the-air HD signal over a standard-def picture straight from the best cameras available any day of the week.

Later,

K

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I just bought a pair of Tivax STB-T8 converters. These look to be one of the best rated boxes. I paid $33 for two delivered after coupons.

I almost bought the insignia from Best Buy, but it’s guide wasn’t rated as good as the Tivax and it would have cost me $10 more for the pair.

Kevin - No argument that digital CAN be better. CD Audio is a good example of the proper application of digital technology. Overly compressed MP3 music is an example of digital gone bad !

I’m looking forward to seeing what I can get off the air at the house.

I’ll send that link to my wife. I think we’ll need a box TV in our trailer.

Maybe not. It’s a dead link.

Jon.