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C.V.S.Ry. adds second C-19 to roster

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A new-to-me Bachmann C-19 arrived via UPS today. I picked it up very reasonable on the Facebook G-Scale Swap and Shop group. It was un-boxed it this afternoon and put it on the rails for a track-power test. Everything works as it should. I didn’t test the smoke and it was ON, so I expect it’s toast, but I don’t use them anyway. It was extremely dusty and I am considering a full tear down so I can wash the shell, but I’ll probably just brush it off as best I can.

This one is a model of D&RGW #345. Unfortunately, if I keep this number I’m going to need to spin a pretty wild back-story as #345 was scrapped in the 50’s. I’m tempted to re-number and re-letter it for the Candlewood Valley and use another one of those Baldwin number plates (EBT tie tacks) that I have. But that is a project for another day. First up is adding battery & R/C. I’ll use the spaghetti board for now, but eventually will gut the tender and build a nice sound enclosure like I did with #8.

A few shots before going into service, posed with her older sister #8…

Since my experiment with Vincent’s K-27 didn’t go well due to size, I decided a second C-19 would provide the power I need to get heavy freights up the long hill. I’m thinking a control system capable of consisting is in my future. Don, did ya get my email ???

#2

Yea, we can’t have 2 345 running at the same time…(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

#3

EBT #7 was similar. Kevin Strong scratch built one on a BBT drive train. There aren’t a lot of photos of #7 around. Something to ponder at least. Unfortunately, I don’t have a #7 number plate (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-frown.gif)

EDIT to add: I did get her running on battery this evening for a test. Best is I was able to find the wiring diagram from #8 Ver. 1 what kept all the boards intact.

#4

Congratulations!

I had one on the wish list, but 7/8 got in the way.(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-laughing.gif)

#5

My #7 started as an Accucraft C-19. It had a lot of mods in the end.

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Ken Brunt said:

Yea, we can’t have 2 345 running at the same time…(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

That’s ONLY on YOUR layout, Ken…(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-foot-in-mouth.gif)

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Pete Thornton said:

My #7 started as an Accucraft C-19. It had a lot of mods in the end.

2021 EDIT to flag broken Freightshed picture that’s not mine.

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Very nice Pete. Some of the changes are very obvious; Oil headlamp, fluted stack, no air tank on tender. Others would take a side-by-side comparison for me. Did you perhaps document this bash? Looks like something I should put on my long-range to-do list (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)

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Jon, don’t forget the curved handrail across the smokebox front. (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)And the hypodermic handrails supplying power to the headlight (though your plastic one already has wires.) The bigger change was the tender, which came from a C-16 (Accucraft, Fn3.) EBT didn’t need tall long-range water tanks in their tenders.

When I looked at buying a Bachmann C-19 I was looking at the tender and wondering how to cut it down.

Did you perhaps document this bash?

The major stuff, like adding RC and the headlight are in Steam in the Garden. I didn’t post anything here.

#9

Jon, looking at this pic, the tender seems not much taller than mine, but it has boards extending the coal capacity higher than the sides? I’d be looking to cut it down right there.

#10

Ah - I missed the curved handrail and the lack of the straight handrail and class lamps on the smokebox. But my eyes (and/or your pic) are not good enough to pick up the power feeds to the head lamp :slight_smile:

So, the tender seems to be the major bugaboo. The Bachmann tender could probably be cut down as you note above, but it might be tricky since those hungry boards hold the coal load. The load would need to be modified or replaced. I’ll compare the tenders from my Annies and maybe even my Bachmann Indy to see how they look. Probably not a project I will be taking on soon. Connie needs to get back on the rails before I start another loco project.

I’d love to see more detail shots of your #7. Did you remove the air pumps as well?

#11

Looks like something I should put on my long-range to-do list

Jon, I forgot the domes, removing half the air-brake piping (single pump on EBT #7) and moving the gas line under the footplate. The latter won’t be a problem for you.

I had my eye on RGS #40, as it had one fluted dome already and only one air pump. I even had a set of old-style dome tops from a Bachmann C-19 that I got from a guy who converted a bumble-bee #345 and didn’t need them (sorry, I sold them earlier this year after I decided not to buy a C19 ever again.) Changing the domes on the Accucraft C-19 turned out to be a big strip down project involving removing the boiler, as the C-16 dome mounting screws were 90 degrees different.

I do have an old style box headlight from the bumblebee #345 version. They are pretty similar to the Bachmann 4-4-0 headlight, which was still available in the parts store last time I looked.

#12

I’d love to see more detail shots of your #7. Did you remove the air pumps as well?

There are some close-ups of #7 later in this video. It’s probably the latest - I sold the engine last year. I noticed that the stack has a Roundhouse copper cap on it (they charge about $10 for them!)

I have attached a few detail shots too.