About a decade ago our club was donated a collection of steam pumps from a longtime member’s estate. Originally they were going to build a stepped rack (something like bleachers) to display them on. It never happened. Instead they were put “into storage” (ie dumped in the tree line at the bottom of the showgrounds.) Kim thought putting them on a wagon might be better than leaving them in the weeds for the scrappies to steal. Except we didn’t have one. Last year a family friend was scrapping out a bunch of stuff and I purchased a pair of axles with steel wheels from him for $35. A steering axle from a wagon type manure spreader, and a straight axle out from under a husker shredder. Except I couldn’t get them hauled until this week… meanwhile the guy who was cutting up the scrap got a little torch happy and cut away all the steering stuff from my axle. Grrrrrrrr! The guy felt bad and gave me another set of steering parts. They looked close, but weren’t quite right. I spent almost 4 hours today making them fit. I needed to lengthen the tie bar almost 4", so I got the bright idea of splicing it in the center. Then I had to graft on the part that holds the tongue since that was burnt off as well… It doesn’t look factory purty but it should be serviceable. Welding in this heat wasn’t much fun, tho. Next step is to weld mounting perches on the rear axle. After that I need to get a couple 12 foot 4x6 or perhaps 6x6 for sills. I’m planning on mounting the biggest duplex pump (about a 6x7x6) transversely directly over the rear axle, and 3 or so of the other ones ahead of it. These things are bloody HEAVY, so I may well need to build truss rods before I’m done, too. Meanwhile, one of the club directors has already begun poo-poo-ing the whole project. He says that the pumps are “junk”… So I’ll probably tear into them after they’re mounted and see if a couple can be gotten running. This may sound backwards, but they’ll be at a nice convenient height to work on once they’re on the wagon rather than fighting with them down in the dirt. I forgot to take pix of today’s progress, maybe Tuesday. Meanwhile, this is an old pic of Kim and the big Transit pump.
Kim wanted to go over to the showgrounds for something else, so I rode along and worked on this thing a bit more today. My really lousy welding job… I’m a little (lot) rusty since I didn’t do any all winter, and I think maybe the rods got damp at some point
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Assembled steering gear…
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The rear axle will need widened just ‘a little’ to match the front. Good thing it’s pipe, not solid!
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I painted the wheels so the thing would look a little less like scrap.
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Yeah, i know… I’m boring.
In case you’re interested, what the big pump looks like now.
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Mik,
While on the White Pass & Yukon we saw “quite a few pieces of kitbashing material” lying along the RoW. And I’m not even including the non-RR stuff.
One step closer… the rear axle should now be even stronger than it was originally because I welded a section of smaller 1-1/2" pipe inside the 2" axle pipe. as well as using some 1/2" schedule 80 for truss bars
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Now that they are the same width, I can start making the brackets to mount the sills. Allegedly the club is going to supply me with 6x6 or 4x8 sills (from those not dead Ash trees they cut back in March.) It’s been suggested I should consider painting the axles and sills navy blue since the pumps are various shades of green
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Well, the wooden sills never got cut. So a friend donated me 2 sections of mobile home I-beam. He dropped them off last Friday, so I figured I’d better do something with them before the scrappies found out they were there.
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Tramming everything took longer than the actual welding. I guarantee it’s within 1/16" of square.
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The first of many braces. I trust my welds. I DON’T trust some of the guys who jump on a tractor hook to stuff and rip 'n snort.
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Since it was getting dark I had to stop there for the day. My last project before leaving was to flip the steering stuff over (I’d managed to mount it upside down!) Luckily that was a 5 minute deal. One big bolt from the pivot, a kotter pins at each end of the tie rod, and turn it all over as a unit. By golly, if it didn’t fit even better than the other way! Then we rolled it outside in the rain so nobody could complain it was in the way if I don’t get back to it later this week…
We had 3 nice days, so I made a lot of progress on this. I was warned that due to the thin material, mobile home I-beams don’t have a lot of side strength, so first I added two vertical X braces made from 3/4" Schedule 80 pipe to help hold the beams square. Since the big pump will be centered over the rear axle, I also put on a pair of braces on the stub ends to help keep it from springing
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There was an angled flange on the rear axle, so I decided it was a really good place to attach a diagonal to help keep the frame from going diamond shape… It looks sort of like a panhard bar.
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Since the axle attach point was a little below the bottom I-beam flange, it allowed me to run the other diagonal flat and tie them together.
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I decided I probably needed to put something across the rear for strength and to help minimize the chances of someone punching the end of the beams through a building.
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I ran out of the real pretty dark blue and couldn’t find more, but a local odd lot store had this other “dark” blue on sale for $4 a quart… so far I’ve used 2 quarts.
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The big pump got brought up out of the weeds. It’s 5 feet long, and the wagon is 12…
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I was going to salvage the oak skids to mount crosswise … but, while they still looked good on top, they’re kind of punky underneath. I’ll have to see if I can find some used channel.
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Some fat guy at work…
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The wagon itself is pretty much done except for the tongue. It ain’t fancy, but it should keep them out of the mud for a bit.
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Since one of the club directors had his big Lull forklift at the showgrounds this weekend to move apple crates, he kindly volunteered to set the big pump on the wagon. (I can’t decide whether it’s more neat or fugly)
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We also got most of the rest of the orphans up out of the tree line. here’s two of them. We’re considering leaving the one covered in old crude and sporting mismatched bolts "in “as-found” condition just so folks realize how much work is often involved in restoring this stuff.
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Funny how I finally got the help I really needed to ‘proceed’ on this project just as the weather went totally to crap…
Last Tuesday Ben Midkiff decided we really needed to take a peek inside the big pump before we did anything else. So we broke out the wrenches and started pulling covers. Surprisingly, after a decade in the weeds, not only was it not stuck, but the bores were super oily and clean!
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The steamchest OTOH was full of mouse nest. It will probably need the valves lapped, but for now we just scooped the crap out and poured oil all through it.
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The pump bores were full of something that might once have been kerosene. Impact marks showed that the rod on this side was hitting the cylinder head, so I removed about 1/8" off the end before closing it up. Hopefully that will cure the problem.
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The pickup pipe was packed solid with chipmunk leavings. More scooping and oiling. Then we coated all the studs with anti seize shtuff and put it back together. For those curious about such things, the steam cylinder bores are 7-1/2" the pump bores are 4-1/2"- making it a fairly high pressure pump - and the stroke is something near 8". The pump is obviously set up to pump oil (solid pistons with iron rings)… and should be easy to get completely operational…
Super Cool!
Micro update: Yesterday afternoon was fair and balmy, so Kim and I went over to do “something”. That something consisted mostly of drilling holes. I made a linkage for the hand pump on the roller, hitch plates for the wagon tongue, and stole the heavy channel out from under the green pump for the larger crusty one…
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I also smoked my 3YO Skil angle grinder… well, slightly more than “smoked”. It decided to suddenly belch 6" green flames out of the motor vent holes and seize up… back to my 15 year old Hitachi, I guess. We also measured the oil tank, it’s 21" and so are the I beams under it. The space between the sill webs is 27" (and it needs to straddle one of my braces), so… I’m thinking of using 2" pipe, since it’s what we have a bunch of, but it’s going to be rather FUN to get those tank channels to set exactly on them (The tank has about 15 gallons of used motor oil in it, so it’s kinda heavy, too )
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On the down side, while the weather is supposed to be still good for this kind of outdoor work early next week, I’m nearly out of 1/8" welding rod (about 4 sticks left) and the 1/4" 6010 I’ve got left would just blow through in a few seconds… (I’ve got some spare #40 and # 60 sprockets and a 3/4" parts injector up on fleabay, but no there’s guarantee that anybody will bid. Other than that, we have no money coming in until the 3rd – You sorta get used to being “poor”, but “flat-assed broke” is still really, really inconvenient!) At least I now have all the parts I need for the tongue, and they don’t need welding. That’s tomorrow’s project since we have to go over for the election meeting anyway.
At 10:15 this morning the phone rang. It was Ben, he said, “if you want help setting those lumps of Sh–, meet me at the showgrounds in 20 minutes.” Okay… it took 30 because I had to change into grubbies. It took us about an hour to load the tank and the pump. Most of it arguing with the club’s clunky junky Ford hi-lift (some members have a real bad habit of abusing it, and then not telling anybody when they screw it up.) Anyway, it turned out there was no oil in the tank, just a skin of tar in the bottom. so lifting it was easy. It’s just sitting on wood blocks for the moment. I’ll try to cut the pipe supports next week. The Union pump gave us a bit of a scare when the chains shifted (the brakes on the Ford tend to be nothing or grab, so it was swinging pretty good), but it then went on with no other troubles. I didn’t do any welding today because the grass is pretty wet, and I really dislike being “tickled”.
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After we got it on the wagon, and more or less balanced, Ben got curious what the tags and stamps said. They told us that it’s a 6x4x6 tar pump, that was once owned by a company called Koppers http://www.oil150.com/essays/2008/09/pennzoil-plant-3-koppers-tar-chemical-division-neville-synthese-rhone-poulenc-merisol He also got rambunctious and pulled the water side on the Worthington It has leather cups so it probably was for water.
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Meanwhile, he also agrees that a mid-sized National duplex wandered off sometime in the last 3 years… We really hope they got hernias loading it. While I was there I took some pix just for y’all’s edification. This is one of the really big simplexes… they are about 9 feet long
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The valves on this thing are pretty interesting. The rocker drives a smallish slide valve, which activates a larger piston shuttle valve that controls the cylinder
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And for those who have read about “bull plugs” but didn’t know what the heck they were. This is a field made one. They also come factory made of cast iron
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Since we have to go back for the meeting tonight anyway, I’ll probably go a bit early and see about finishing that tongue… the front end is getting kinda heavy and really hard to steer with just the stub.
Today Kim and I went over to work on this thing a bit more… It turns out the tank was sitting drunk because it was BUILT about 1/4" off square. The simplest solution was to weld one support crosspiece lower than the other. Close enough for government work!
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The Worthington got painted grey. Kind of boring, but historically correct. Most vintage industrial equipment was painted either green or grey. And this one showed spots grey paint. We also found not one, but TWO 6" long cracks in the pickup (suction) part of the pump end. If we decide to make this one operate it’s gonna need either brazed or grooves ground for JB weld… since they’re both underneath, and behind stuff that will be FUN I also still need 2 short pieces of 4" channel to mount it. I looked on Craigslist, but the only guy I found wanted $70 for a 6 foot piece! And the scrapyard doesn’t have any.
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It’s sooo hard to get good help these days…
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The tongue… They griped that they didn’t want the long one I had planned “to trip over”. So they gots a really, really short one, which will make this thing a royal PitA to back up. It will be painted red to match the wheels
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About this point I was getting dehydrated, had too much sun and paint fumes, and starting to feel woogly - so we bagged it for the day.
You know you could make a storage one and a usable one? I agree on the hard to back up. You coiuld also make a telescoping one, one with a collapsible extension or how about one that folds back on it self and held ridged with pins? With a will, there is a way.
Ric, think of it as a :“quit trying to jerk me around” notice. I gave the EXACTLY what they demanded, if it isn’t what they wanted, tough.
OTOH, if you can show me how to make a telescoping one out of solid oak, I’ll listen
Pretty interesting project. Nice to see someone who cares about these old, historical devices.
Solid Oak? One piece of equal size on top of other with two large steel "U"s facing up on sliding part and two facing down on fixed short tongue. Drop pin to hold in position. Looking at pictures, I would imagine 8 x 8’s. Maybe old barn poles might be found in your area. Talk to the Amish.