Large Scale Central

Building a Barn?

Modeling
#1

How about in 1:1 ? We are! The frame is up ready for wall panels. It’s done a little differently now than 100+ years ago, but when finished it will look vintage from the outside, and rustic but clean on the inside. If anyone would like, I think I can get a copy of the frame plan as a PDF file. [url=lsc.cvsry.com/Barn1-1024.JPG]

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[/url][color=blue]Right Click Photo and select Open Link in New Window to Enlarge[/color] When finished this will have retail space, probably a coffee shop like Starbucks on the ground floor, and an art gallery on the second floor. Jon

#2

Plans are always good Jon. That barn frame would look good with a silo going up next to it,and maybe partial covering on the barn.

Dave

#3

Looks timber framed

#4
Richard Kapuaala said:
Looks timber framed
I don't know enough about the terminology of barn building to agree or not :( The beams are massive - Uprights at least 10x10 and the center beam of the second floor must be at least 18 x 10. Everything is mortise and tenon joinery. They don't use pegs anymore, but very large screws covered with a plug that looks like a peg.

Jon

Edit: Here’s the fill size plans if you want them 24x36" Plans

#5

How big is the footprint?

#6
John Bouck said:
How big is the footprint?
57 Ft. x 28 Ft. - 30.5 Ft. to top of peak.
#7

Yep, mortise and tenon method is what is commonly referred to as timber framing.

#8

The technique is called “Post and Beam,” by some.

Neat barn. Will you be doing one for your railroad?

#9

I’ve heard of post and beam, but it usually doesn’t include framing that is mortised and tendon. Mechanical fasteners are usually used, at least thats what I learned when I worked in the trades about 16 years ago.

#10

I’ve heard of post & beam too, but usually only in real estate ads, and we all know that realtors have some very creative terminology. My favorite is “mature plantings” - go to visit and find a yard that’s completely overgrown :smiley:

I’m not sure how we are going to do the second floor in this structure. The beautiful beams on the ceiling cry out to be left exposed, but the cross members for the second floor aren’t close enough together to span with just flooring. If it were me, I’d run Tongue & Groove on a diagonal across the beams, leaving that exposed from the bottom. Then build the floor frame at a 90 degree angle to the support beams, covering that with the sub & finish floor. But I’m usually over-ruled by construction because of budgetary constraints.

Jon

#11

That shouldn’t be that much more, if you are going to have finished walls then hanging rock or something shouldn’t be that much cheaper. Because those timber framed structures are so beautiful I have seen them skinned with a laminated insulated wall panel. I forget the correct name for the product, but, one side is 5/8 ACX and the other side can be the same or sheet rock. They come in 4X10 panels I think, its been a while.

#12

Jon, Thanks for the drawings.They’re downloaded already. As far as the second floor goes you should be able to use 2x tongue and groove (you’ll have to route your own or order it). Diagonal placement would look best from below if you want it exposed.Sheet goods on top depending on floor covering.
Dave

#13

I’ll leave the engineering to the engineers - I work on selections for the finishes.

I do believe we are using the insulated panels for skin. That will be covered on the outside with 1x4 siding that was salvaged from the old barn this one is replicating. That will leave all of the timber exposed on the inside walls. They are supposed to start hanging panels on Monday.

No problem on the drawings. Just don’t use them for a 1:1 structure and I wont get in trouble :slight_smile:

Jon

#14

Being an old house guru I call it post and beam…I see lamb’s tongues cut on the beams as well.
Very nice!