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Box Cabs

Ric. I haven’t heard from him yet. Did you email through his profile link? I did hope it still worked.

I tried email through the forum and it didn’t work. Tom posted his email in another boxcab thread, it is [email protected]

Aaron?? you got a picture of your Bluestone Southern boxcab???

Thanks I will try to reach him with that email.

You mean this one Andy :slight_smile:

(http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s414/trainbuffjr1/d0f73fe1.jpg)

yeah, Aaron, that one… :slight_smile:

Ric Golding said:
My new Box Cab was the subject of many discussions during the 2012 American Invasion. I am way behind on catching up on all the postings and email, that is why it is a called a vacation, but wanted to get a thread started. Thoughts, opinions and sources of reference of these little critters is always interesting. Do you have one or two? Could you post an lmage? I’ll get some pictures of mine posted shortly, but maybe other people can start as I catch up. How about kits? Thanks in advance.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/Shortybear/Bobby%20the%20Boxcab/005-1.jpg)

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/Shortybear/Bobby%20the%20Boxcab/008-1.jpg)

Ric pushed me!!!

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David Russell said:

Ric Golding said:
My new Box Cab was the subject of many discussions during the 2012 American Invasion. I am way behind on catching up on all the postings and email, that is why it is a called a vacation, but wanted to get a thread started. Thoughts, opinions and sources of reference of these little critters is always interesting. Do you have one or two? Could you post an lmage? I’ll get some pictures of mine posted shortly, but maybe other people can start as I catch up. How about kits? Thanks in advance.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/Shortybear/Bobby%20the%20Boxcab/005-1.jpg)

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/Shortybear/Bobby%20the%20Boxcab/008-1.jpg)

Ric pushed me!!!

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YOUR WELCOME!!

Kinda heavy to push!

Very nice!

Rooster did you finish this one?

Kind of looks familiar

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n214/altterrain/boxcab/boxcab33d.jpg)

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n214/altterrain/boxcab/boxcab33c.jpg)

Will be taking the 7/8’s boxcab for a run on my XL Pizza layout. Pics later.

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n214/altterrain/7-8n2%20projects/7-8boxcab/7-8sboxcab1.jpg)

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n214/altterrain/7-8n2%20projects/7-8boxcab/7-8sboxcab3.jpg)

-Brian

Brian,

Nice work!

Brian Donovan said:

Rooster did you finish this one?

Kind of looks familiar

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n214/altterrain/boxcab/boxcab33d.jpg)

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n214/altterrain/boxcab/boxcab33c.jpg)

Will be taking the 7/8’s boxcab for a run on my XL Pizza layout. Pics later.

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n214/altterrain/7-8n2%20projects/7-8boxcab/7-8sboxcab1.jpg)

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n214/altterrain/7-8n2%20projects/7-8boxcab/7-8sboxcab3.jpg)

-Brian

Yes …Brian I had a bachmann motor block and the face off of Percy for some reason. The boys here told me there were no rules on Boxcabs . I did find one of your links to it with my research and it was inspirational. I actually had the track cleaning car body cause Ralphie the Rail Scale rides on its chassis. I’m gonna have you smoking cigarettes yet!

You guys are the best!

http://www.largescalecentral.com/forums/topic/17473/bobby-the-blabbermouth-boxcab

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=pLgJ7pk0X-s

Interesting thread.

Ric Golding said:
There is a thought, especially in the HO world, that Box Cabs worked in pairs. Where did this idea come from?

Pulling Superliners ?

This post was edited by Rooster ’ at March 31, 2013 9:33 PM EDT

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Interesting thread.

Leaving that aside, I have never heard that boxcabs worked in pairs. However, I am sure that in the early days they figured out how to couple the controls and make a multiple-unit rig? Thus they would run around in pairs like the A-B units that arrived after WWII?

I wonder if the MILW EF and EP Box Cabs are source of this idea?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA3zHkkCzEc

Alan Lott said:

I wonder if the MILW EF and EP Box Cabs are source of this idea?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA3zHkkCzEc

Pennsy MUed the big boxcabs as well especially the electric ones.

CN had many Box Cabs, in and around the Montreal electrified area. Primarily on the line North through the Mount Royal Tunnel. They generally ran them in pairs. They were original manufactured by “British Electric” A few of them were first used by the Montreal Harbours Board, then sold to CN. At least one of them has been preserved, at the North end of the Electrified commuter line. There may be one at Rail Expo, in Delson/St.Constant, Quebec. They were electric locomotives, on 2 four wheeled trucks, Their wheels were spoked. They used pantographs.

Fred Mills

Electric boxcabs & the similar but different box motors were easy to m.u. and that was reasonably common on both Class 1 lines and Interurban outfits.

Of course I’ve got books, let’s see what can be found on the web right quick, easier on here to share web links than books!

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Here’s a picture of a pair of St Clair Tunnel units from Canada around 1910, https://www.classicstreamliners.com/lo-baldwin-westinghouse-electrics.html

A pair of New Haven EF-1 in 1950s, https://flic.kr/p/27sMWBj

Great Northern units in pairs and trios in early 1900s, https://www.classicstreamliners.com/lo-gn-boxcab-3-ph.html

GN had a series designed to be used paired, “The locomotives were built as pairs of semi-permanently coupled units, and were always used as such.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Northern_Z-1#Layout

And pairing was still used in the 21st century, even on out of the way industrial and mining lines,

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SQM_E650_Quillagua_-_Barriles.jpg

Pete Thornton said:

Leaving that aside, I have never heard that boxcabs worked in pairs. However, I am sure that in the early days they figured out how to couple the controls and make a multiple-unit rig? Thus they would run around in pairs like the A-B units that arrived after WWII?

(Photo from TRAIN SHED CYCLOPEDIA #43
probably taken under the Kearney, New Jersey, hill, near Manhattan Transfer.)

LIRR #401 was followed briefly in 1926 by an unsuccessful Brill 80-ton gasoline boxcab, #402 (first, Class AA-3, s/n 22315), with twin gasoline engines, which was built in January and returned after two weeks (without title having transferred to the LIRR), and then by paired (“semi-permanently-coupled”) Baldwin-Westinghouse 330HP 87-ton (each) oil-electric boxcabs #403A/B, “Mike and Ike” (s/n 60185/6), LIRR Class AA-4, in September of 1927, which were later rebuilt to run as separate units, probably at their December 1929 rebuild; these were used in the pocket yards, such as the LIRR’s Pidgeon Street yard in Queens and the PRR’s North 4th Street yard on the Brooklyn waterfront (see photo, below). Next, the LIRR went back to ALCo-GE-IR in 1928 for a second twin-engined (600HP), 109-ton boxcab, Model B6-4 #402 (second), s/n 67330 (GE s/n 10465), LIRR Class AA-3, with a unique, one-off body with slightly rounded ends with end doors (the only one*); 6’ shorter than the 401 (per Ron Zeil in his “The Long Island Rail Road in Early Photographs”); #402/2 was completed in October@ of that year. Both #401 and second #402 ran into the ‘50s; #401 was rebuilt at Erie, Pennsylvania, in September 1927, and perhaps this is when she was retrofitted with the GE conical radiator housings. #402 was scrapped in 1951 and #401 was scrapped ca. 1958. I note, however, from later photographs, that in its waning years, 401 was also equipped, for some reason, with stack extensions about 1’ long and still another kind of (cross-draft) radiator. The next engines which came along starting in 1945 were a BLW AS-6, five ALCo S-1’s, and a BLW AS-6m, all of which were hood units.