Large Scale Central

BN 8th Sub (Issaquah Branch) Track Plan

As I’m watching the lovely rain come down, I thought it would be appropriate to get some overhead shots of the entire layout and update the folks over at LSC what’s been happening overall on my layout the past few months.
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As we leave the garage we cross over the Sammamish Slough heading towards Redmond.

In the background is as a still to be developed industry that represents a couple industries at 90th and Willows Rd. On the prototype this comes before the Slough. You’ll also note the presence of two BBQ. One is currently in reserve for use in annealing aluminum cans for T-D Feeds.

We then head down the more non prototypical 4% grade towards Redmond.
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Before we enter Redmond, we reach the highest point of the railroad with rail about 70" above ground, allowing for a 60" duck under. This is just to the right of the cedar tree ( hopefully I left enough room for that to grow over the next 20 years).Landscaping is in progress for creating a forced step down under the layout.

The main industry in Redmond is T-D Feeds, receiving 3x a week service. Besides the feed mill, I’ve only made progress on two structures; the depot and a pawn shop. Not built yet are three remaining non railroad structures ( 2 bay Auto repair shop, a small engine repair shop and a 2 story brick building).
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​As we leave Redmond ( phase two of layout construction), we encounter the third and last lift out of the layout (first two include the garage to Slough and Slough to 90th). I’m still trying to figure out how I want to build this one, but it will probably take the same style of aluminum channel.
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Once we cross over, the track begins a small S curve before entering a 12’ radius curve to start running towards Issaquah. Near the end of the curve, the next industry to come online will be St. Regis lumber.

This spur is freelanced due to space as the prototype made a sweeping 90° curve that I just don’t have room for. This also might be the only location on the outdoor portion to have a #6 turn vs a #9 ( such as the prototype)
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As we leave St. Regis, the level grade ends and starts back up a 4% grade to maintain a track level height of 36" or so.
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My goal is to get to Darigold and the fence by the end of 2023 another 50’ away, leaving just another 75’-100’ or so of run to Issaquah and the runaround.​

Thanks to Paul Burch for selling me his leftover track after tearing out his layout. His track is finding a new home on my layout. I’m slowly coming to the conclusion that after all these years of hand laid track it might finally be time to slowly replace with commercial track. Thanks to Paul, I have quite a bit of Sunset Valley track to use up first. I’m still committed to building my own turnouts, and using up the track I’ve got built already.

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Everything is looking good Craig!

Thanks Pete! It’s been 4 years starting in October since we moved into the house. I feel like I haven’t made that fast of progress but when I take a step back and look, I actually feel accomplished. I’ve got roughly another 100 or maybe 150’ of total track left to build and my goal is to get that done by the spring of 2025 at the latest so that gives me a while still.

You’re making faster progress than I ever did Craig, great job!

I don’t know about that. My buildings are taking a long time to finish. It seems I’m split 50% of my time and energy building the layout out, 25% on structures and 25% on other random projects.

My goal this year was not to start anything new and almost 10 months I can say I’ve only deviated twice and then quickly set them aside.

I think once the massive feed mill is done and on the layout it will visually fill the space but also emotionally feel like a huge relief.

Craig,
I’m glad that the track is being put to good use. Hopefully in the next few months the track from the indoor staging yard will be available. Maybe 75 feet. If anyone local wants to drop by I still have some really nice cleaned up buildings and miscellaneous for sale. I don’t want to sidetrack Craigs posts here so contact me direct if interested.

I sure know what you mean, hang in there Dude!!

Well there might,
Might be a time to quit researching and … oh heck , forgot who I was talking to, keep going and look forward to the progress reports.:joy::joy:

I’m not sure what you mean…:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::roll_eyes:

I only spent a day so far researching and taking photos of the Issaquah area. Ironically I found out that the Issaquah and Redmond depot are the exact same size so I might have the Issaquah depot already done now that the Redmond depot is person non-grata in 1990 time frame and replaced with a hay storage building.

And to make things even better, the depot was under going a exterior and interior remodel after being boarded up and abandoned. All that needs to be replaced is the roof!

What a win!!! No need to do much but change a roof on the depot!
I must have been thinking of someone else that over researches and gets locked up in small detail discrepancies!! Devon maybe?:joy::joy:🤷

I mean there’s a few minor details that are different…

Starting with the wall type, height of some of the loading bays.

But it will probably do for now. Or until I decide I’ve ran out of projects. :joy:

Looks really great Craig, I’d be pretty happy to have that much done 4 years after moving in. We moved 6 years ago and I’m just getting first tracks down this summer.

Cheers
Neil

I feel like I’m making a snails progress. But it probably also has to do with the fact that it’s been 12 years since my last layout so that might make it feel longer. And in those 12 years I don’t feel like I’ve accomplished much in terms of small scale projects when I look at builds I started 10-12 years ago.

Some major changes in the track plan and operation scheme are brewing. Something as simple as changing a spur from a trailing point to facing point spur can drastically change the operation of the layout.

I’ve always known about the spur at Ste Michelle Vinters (trailing point) on the spur but I haven’t ever really thought about as a modeled spur as I never heard of any cars being spotted there during my time frame. Documents show the spur as 925’ long with 125’ railroad owned. I’m guessing it paralleled the building and when the building was built they thought rail shipment was possible. I’ve never heard anyone say that this ever actually got rail serviced.

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But it’s been bugging me lately looking at the spur I built for 90th St (Douglas Palmer, facing point).

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I initially thought I would want to have a big space for the industry buildings so last summer I expanded on the area and made it bigger. But it’s too far in to really reach and uncouple cars.

And the spur is a trailing point.

I’m slowly thinking that maybe the best option is to keep it but cut it back as the Ste. Michelle spur and then build the Douglas Palmer spur as a correct facing point a little further down the track, right next to the fence.

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Sure I won’t have the space for the buildings, but I could at least get a parking lot area. And it would be a lot easier to reach in and switch.

I have a extra turnout on hand waiting for more ties.

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Operational wise it makes more sense to swap the two areas as it forces a final move on the way back to Woodinville (staging) vs at the beginning.

Plus the extra bonus…

My wife can officially be called “Saint Michelle”. After all she deals with me…

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You might have room for a flat building

There might be room for a flat but honestly it’s not a deal breaker. The buildings are a bit away from the tracks so I’d probably just “pave” the area around the tracks and stage a few stacks of lumber and a forklift.

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Was there ever a lumber transloading facility there???

Which place you talking about?
The winery has always been a winery. Funny thing they grown just enough grapes on site to make it look like it’s grapes grown in W. Washington but the grapes are actually grown in eastern Washington…

But I suppose I could do a building flat for the winery. I hadn’t thought of that.

The other place was a building supply house/lumber store along with a plumbing company next door. Those buildings never changed. That was the place I was planning on just paving with a parking lot.

Well then that will work just fine , paved parking for transloading lumber, spent a lot of time around those, wish I had a spot to model it on my little layout , along with the corn syrup transloading facility I worked at years ago

Anyone with a brain knows eastern WA is far superior to western WA. Even grape growers know this basic fact. There are three reasons to live in western WA. Free black berries, whale watching, and crab.