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General Discussion
#1

The following is for a scam for a high priced engine that I had listed on eBay. Now I’ll have to go through the process of retrieving the eBay charges for my listing but if I followed through on the sale, I would have lost a bunch…

I agreed to pay the amount you want as buy it now any additional money for the shipping and handling. Here will go i am using this opportunity to inform you that the amount that will be on the moneyorder will more than your item fees.I don"t realy know the exact amount that will be.Because it will be issue by my client.and the reason of the over payment is that.the amount on the moneyorder has been signed already.And it is more than your item fees.so once you receive it.you must deduct your item fees and westernunion the balance money to my client manager in africa.the item is going to africa also the shipping and westernunion address will come with the payment.
There will be no problem about the shipment.I want you to responsible for it.also make sure you deduct ur item fees and westernunion any aditional money on the m/o once you receive it.and email me ur phone# asap today.
Below are the questions i have for you.

1)is the item in good condition?

2)is any westernunion location where you can send the balance money arround you?

3)can you make sure you get the m/o cash at ur bank the sameday you receive it?

4)can you allow me to send DHL for the pick up and complet the transaction the day you receive the
moneyorder?

If yes too all my questions.kindly email me back asap today so that the moneyorder can be send
asap,

Thanks,

#2

Sounds like another one from Nigeria .
And to think these buggers have the right to immigration to the UK .

#3
Mike Morgan said:
Sounds like another one from Nigeria . And to think these buggers have the right to immigration to the UK .
Mike,

The bright side; the black sheep stay home. :slight_smile:

We get similarly detailed “inquiries” on an almost daily basis from Nigeria, Ivory Coast, Mauritius and Angola (no offence if I missed one or more countries), but they all end up in the “Kill” section.

They all must be doing “reforestation projects”. :wink: :slight_smile: :smiley:

#4

So, the guy tries to get you to Western Union him money the same day the money order comes? So that would seem to say the money order is bogus, and depositing it takes a few days to show as fake.

Or maybe he tries to get you to ship out the product by DHL before you get the money order, or the order is bogus again?

Maybe a combination of both?

Would seem that if you responded with that you will not ship the item until the money order has cleared the bank that would shut him up.

Sounds pretty fishy.

Regards, Greg

#5

Darryl:

Thanks for the heads up. It never hurts to show others these scams. Hopefully it will help keep someone from getting ripped off.

Does ebay’s anti-fraud department take any interest or action on something like this? I can’t imagine there is anything that can be done to find the perp’s, but at least it shouldn’t cost the seller anything in money or reputation.

All:

There was a TV news article recently where a guy in Northern CA got a very similar proposition. He was cautious enough to wait until the bank opened and deposited the original check, intending to wait for it to clear. During that time, the ‘buyer’ was really on his case, demanding the goods and repayment of the ‘overage’ amount. Enough so that the seller called his bank after a day or two. They told him something to the effect that “. . . the check appeared to be OK”. Of course it bounced some days later, but he had already sent the money and goods.

The bank officer being interviewed pointed out that they can and will give an opinion such as the above as well as put the money in your account while waiting for the check to clear. If it doesn’t go through, they will then take the money back. The banker said it could take up to two weeks for international drafts to be fully cleared! In the meanwhile the bank will probably just say “. . . it appears to be OK”. We as individuals seem to be the responsible parties for fraud prevention.

We just can’t be too careful out there!

Happy RRing,

Jerry

#6

A follow up to this saga.

In my description, I put that I would only accept Pay Pal or Postal Money Order-Bank M.O. or Cashiers Check. Nothing else accepted… Plain and simple as I remembered that I missed that Turnip truck once before !! Wasn’t going to do that trick… So the Western-Onion bit was the first clue… Next clue was the newly registered person with ZERO feedback. The very next day the person was NOT registered after making the bid! Then later on in the day I received the above mentioned e-mail message which is clearly a CON.

eBay did send me a notice that the sale could be cancelled if I wished to due to the fact that the bidder was not registered any longer. I had to file for a refund of final fees but they ALWAYS keep the listing fees in any circumstances. Ouch ! Got past the con person and got bit by eBay !!!

End of story, well just about… Found someone else that really wants the engine and is making Pay Pal payment tonight and “now you know the rest of the story.” Money in the bank, alls well that ends well, finally… Case closed.

Cheers,

#7

Finally the true end of this misadventure.

I thought I might let eBay know that I just didn’t think it was right for them to keep the listing fees as it was not my fault that a scammer caused the problem. Didn’t hear anything for many days and then this morning I received a message that they would and did credit my account the charged fees.
The squeaky wheel gets the oil at last !!! Oh ! I did suggest to them that I might close my account of many long years ??? Hmmmm.

Cheers,

#8

Had a guy who bid on and won an engine from me, to be sent to the EU somewhere. He wanted my banking info so he could “wire me the money” as he could not get a US funds money order, Bank draft or even paypal me. I said no way to this, notified e-bay and sold to the next higher bidder at a total loss of only $2.00 in total including the e-aby fees ect