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Bachmann annoucements

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#21
Rod Hayward said:
No tanks and a tender, sure no problem.
Yes, that's it exactly. Except, from the rendering above, the trailing truck is set considerably further back, and the firebox is a great deal shorter front to back ... a coal conversion would require some grates and an ash pan, plus the new cab, and deck, and a way to place drawbars. Oh, and a tender ... but that's the least of my worries.

Cart before horse. First I guess we see how much it’s “based” on the Biles Coleman, and whether it’s actually 1:20, or, like the Indy, their last “based on” 1:20 locomotive, it’s just … not. Then we can start warming up the saw.

(When we do, though… gonna need some help with this!)

#22

No need to move the firebox back. The grates would be between the frames as they are on numerous 2-8-0 (and other) locomotives where the firebox proper sits just above the drivers. Personally, I’d be tempted to move the cab forward at bit, lop off the trailing truck, and make it a 2-6-6-0 with tender. The addition of a tender would give ample space for the crew to fire the locomotive, eliminating the need for the cab being so far back on the proposed prototype. The firebox is being supported by the drivers.

Later,

K

#23

“Never built” prototypes are not unheard of in the modeling world. Even Märklin is working on a H0 model of the planned ,but not built, Borsig super heavy wartime locomotive as discussed in this article.

http://www.marklin.com/about/about7.html

The Biles-Coleman, if made, offers great potential for being bashed into a Garratt.

#24

July 8, 2008 09:47:57 MST

Cale Nelson

Black Helicopter time: I wonder if the Christmas adage was a hidden clue to “product X” being released in December?

guess I was right!

#25

November delivery would imply a prototype is close to production phase.

#26

Doubt it. Probably just that the mallet and the caboose are Christmas things… kinda like the K was supposed to be.

There are no black helicopters. Really. Now, please look up at the red light…

Matthew (OV)

#27

getting lazy in my posting:

that is what I meant…sry…was up all night with the new kid…back home today…in the above post I was assuming the Mally was the product X…prb here for the Christmas Season? Hey, did you ever inventory?

#28

Well…to be true to prototype wouldn’t Bachmann have to propose but never build the engine? Just a thought! :wink:

And Dave, “Whimsy” therefore is perfect!!! hehehe!

#29

I did. Watch your mailbox! :slight_smile:

#30

So, the top lifts off.
11X12, looks like they’ve used some of the available extra pins on the double rows.

Better have, as if it’s got 2 motors, we would over-drive the pins.
Let’s see, Ames Super Socket Part Uh, Ames Mini Socket, and Ames Super Socket, Part Duh.

Do we know yet if they are wired the same?

And, how do you plug it into a mini?

So, the Inventor of Universal plug-and-play has given us two versions in 10 months, and possibly three.

Gawd, I hope all the electronic bits are better mounted in production units than they appear to be in what I’ve seen.

More stuff for the parts bin.
I’ve already got a BIG box of 45-tonnmer stuff, BIGger box of Heisler stuff, 2 and 3-truck Shay stuff, Porter bits, three versions thereof, 2-6-0 Industrial boards, and K stuff (as in Ames Super Sockets).

You know, I don’t think I’m interested.
I’m already scrapping locos, probably going to cut up some more.

Sure would be nice to know if it’s a true artic or a Meyer.

Headlight will go on the bandstand, backup light will move to the back of the cab to drop height.

Cylinder drains are a nice touch, but I know from experience they are real good plant removers!

Did you notice the really neat coupler mounts?

The end pilot steps are nice, too.

But, from the nomenclature on the Ames Super Socket Part Duh, they might have figured out the lighting issues, finally.

#31

Dave, what photos are you looking at? The one of the socket posted on the B’mann web site has the same dummy plug as what’s in the K, with merely some extra wires soldered to it for reasons yet to be determined. (Could even be a dummy plug from a DCC or R/C K-27 just plugged in for the photo, as some of the traces have been cut as well.) I’m not seeing extra pins anywhere.

Later,

K

#32

There were so many “proposals” and ideas.

I dug a Super Socket out of the box, and I think what threw me was the use of some of the extra pins.
I see at least two wires so connected, but solder blobs on at least 6 of the extra pins.

#33

I can’t find photos of anything but the Davenport. Is it in the Product section already? I didn’t look close there.

And Cale - What did you ever do to the Pullster to get the designation of “Non Paying Member” ? Everyone else on the Soap is either a First Class Member, or has no designation. You seem to be being singled out as cheap :o

#34
Jon Radder said:
[snip]And Cale - What did you ever do to the Pullster to get the designation of "Non Paying Member" ? Everyone else on the Soap is either a First Class Member, or has no designation. You seem to be being singled out as cheap :o
Good question, but I don't put Cales' membership status down as "cheap", but rather as smart. I assumed Shad is advertising the fact that you don't have to pay.

Happy RRing,

Jerry

#35

Photos in the Photo Gallery on the Bochman site.

(http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/gallery/albums/album29/aaa.thumb.jpg)

(http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/gallery/albums/album29/aab.thumb.jpg)

#36

That’s odd.
I just put in links, yet the photos show.

#37

It’s in the board’s Photo Gallery.

Matthew (OV)

#38
Jerry Bowers said:
Jon Radder said:
[snip]And Cale - What did you ever do to the Pullster to get the designation of "Non Paying Member" ? Everyone else on the Soap is either a First Class Member, or has no designation. You seem to be being singled out as cheap :o
Good question, but I don't put Cales' membership status down as "cheap", but rather as smart. I assumed Shad is advertising the fact that you don't have to pay.

Happy RRing,

Jerry


I actually did that myself…insert verbage where your town and state go.

I can’t believe it hasn’t been changed, of course I don’t post near as much there as I used to either…it’s my personal revolution

#39
Kevin Strong said:
Hmm... I guess if one breaks down, Artie chokes? :D

Later,

K


:lol: :lol:

#40

Dave, near as I can tell, the new electronics on the dummy plug look to have something to do with the front and rear headlights. They might be dimmers for directional lighting. My first thought was that they were the dropping transistor circuits for the lights, but (a) it makes no sense to put that on a dummy plug because R/C and DCC users would need it as well, and (b) the resistors are 22K ohm resistors, different than what Bachmann used in the K for those circuits. I don’t know what the two resistors are connected to on the DCC row of pins. On the K, that pin is just an auxiliary accessory tap for a user-defined DCC function. On the dummy plug, it goes nowhere. Why anchor it to that pin, except just to hold it in place?

One thing, though. With that extra stuff on the dummy plug, it’s going to make it a bit more difficult to follow B’mann’s instructions for installing 3rd party electronics using the dummy plug. I hope there are solder pads on the main board to compensate for that. None show in the photo, but parts of the board are hidden. If not, I think “cut and throw” might be the order of the day here. At least all the pertinent wires will be centrally located.

Later,

K