Large Scale Central

Aristo sale

I don’t see anyone posting much about it but I just couldn’t pass it up. I ordered a SD45 MRL and I’m excited to get it. I wanted to order a second. I chose instead to get some things I’ll need for scratch builds. Most everything is gone now and a lot of searches came up as out of stock that were previously in stock.

I ordered a bunch of stuff from the new MTH catalog and didn’t want anymore but hey, they ain’t going to be around much more!

Joe why do you say MTH will not be around much longer? Seems to me they are going pretty well…in O at least, seems to me even in LS they are way healthier than AC was…at least they have new product, even USA and Bachmann have a hard time saying that.

No interest in Arsito on my end. Im only into narrow gauge and mainly live steam and scratch building my rolling stock.

Vic…The Genius keeps changing focus.
I recall (vividly) the lead-up to the LS entry.
They sold off 0 stuff at shows…lots…below dealer, if I recall, seemingly to finance the entrance into LS.
Last several years hasn’t ben much announced from Mikey in large scale, more of a focus on world dcs domination by entering half zero.
Unfortunately, those guys know their stuff, weren’t about to buy into some new non-dcc-control system.
Then he focused on Euro stuff. Now he’s back with some large scale cataloged…who knows where he’s going to finally settle down?
He seems to have taken his cues from his old nemesis at Lionel…Dick Kughn…who apparently looked around, said “there’s money to be made in X”.
Why we ended up with Lionel LS.
The boy genius seems to thrash around from time to time, deciding on where to focus next.
It has been interesting to watch.

All I know is that they need to get rid of that completely daft Triplex, take the drive parts and make something useful like a LS version of their 0-8-0 switcher, will it happen? sure, when pigs fly the space shuttle to Neverland.

Just the facts boys!!

Its a fact Joe, that Triplex is pretty Daffy ! Why didn’t they so a Northern or if they had to go big, an Allegheny?

:wink:

Vic,
The fact is…

I would have bought an Allegheny and…

I was talking about Aristo’s SD45 not being around much longer .

Joe Paonessa said:

I ordered a bunch of stuff from the new MTH catalog and didn’t want anymore but hey, they ain’t going to be around much more!

Except…Victor and I responded to YOUR posting about MTH not being around anymore.
If you’re going to open the door, don’t complain when it smacks you upside the head.

OK Joe, but I’ll take from your answer that even you were not daft enough to buy the Triplex

:wink:

Vic Smith said:

OK Joe, but I’ll take from your answer that even you were not daft enough to buy the Triplex

:wink:

What is it about the Triplex that you don’t like?
I know it is a odd engine but it does look pretty interesting.

Vincent D’Agostino said:

Vic Smith said:

OK Joe, but I’ll take from your answer that even you were not daft enough to buy the Triplex

:wink:

What is it about the Triplex that you don’t like?
I know it is a odd engine but it does look pretty interesting.

It is an interesting engine, but its sort of like when Bachmann announced the follow to the Heisler was going to be the Vulcan, which was an engine type almost no one had ever heard of and had a grand total of 4 prototypes, Peoples response was WTH?

The Triplex is similar, it had a grand total of 3 prototypes and was by all accounts a dismal failure, it was such a poor performer because no boiler could keep up steam pressure for the 3 sets of pistons that they eventually broke each one up and rebuilt them as three 2-8-0s.

So while it makes an interesting model unless your layout consists of nothing but Appalachian coal drags its not going to be very popular, especially with the western RRers. That’s why I scratch my head at why they chose such a daft prototype. I suspect it had more to do with ego than marketing. When USA cam out with the Big Boy, MTHs response was “two sets of drivers?, heres three sets of drivers nyeeh nyeh nyeeeh nyeh”

If they had done a proper Northern, which was by far the most popular locomotive type across the US, with dozens of roadnames, they could have pulled a hellova lot more people to the MTH side, but instead they issued a daft polarizing not very popular or for that matter, known about engine, and I’d bet the reason they haven’t done another engine since is that they are still paying for the production for the Triplex. Thats my basic thing, its such a missed opportunity.

PS we still have no Northern, THE most common and popular engine in the real world of steam., in large scale, and I doubt we ever will short of Live Steam.

I will go along with all that!
My local store has had one on display since they came out, I stare at it every time I am in there… and I know most likely I will end up taking it home some day.
Not to run on my layout because it is just way to big, but to put on a operating display.

And I agree, they should have come out with a steamer that would have been more user friendly to most modelers.

The other thing that has always baffled me with the Triplex is that it seems much larger then anything MTH produced (including the Big Boy). It simply dwarfs my MTH Hudson big time, like comparing a 18 wheeler to a Yugo!

From memory, MTH did an ‘Aristo’ direct marketting sale on the Triplex, undercutting their dealers by hundreds of dollars and really unsettling a few feathers. Anyone really wanting a Triplex would have picked one up at the time of the sale. From memory the loco sold for around $800.00 direct from MTH.

Any still sitting on dealer’s shelves will remain collecting dust. I also believe (relying on memory) that the Triplex had a reliability flaw (whether minor or major my memory is not that good), possibly to do with continually blowing circuit boards.

The Triplex was an amazing locomotive and no doubt a very impressive looking model.

Curmudgeon mcneely said:

Joe Paonessa said:

I ordered a bunch of stuff from the new MTH catalog and didn’t want anymore but hey, they ain’t going to be around much more!

Except…Victor and I responded to YOUR posting about MTH not being around anymore.
If you’re going to open the door, don’t complain when it smacks you upside the head.

Ahhh, why bother splaining?

Joe Paonessa said:

Curmudgeon mcneely said:

Joe Paonessa said:

I ordered a bunch of stuff from the new MTH catalog and didn’t want anymore but hey, they ain’t going to be around much more!

Except…Victor and I responded to YOUR posting about MTH not being around anymore.
If you’re going to open the door, don’t complain when it smacks you upside the head.

Ahhh, why bother splaining?

Joe, you just don’t get it, do you?

Joe Paonessa said:

Curmudgeon mcneely said:

Joe Paonessa said:

I ordered a bunch of stuff from the new MTH catalog and didn’t want anymore but hey, they ain’t going to be around much more!

Except…Victor and I responded to YOUR posting about MTH not being around anymore.
If you’re going to open the door, don’t complain when it smacks you upside the head.

Ahhh, why bother splaining?

Generally, one finds it’s easier to get it right the first time than to have to 'splain later.
But not always.
Sometimes all folks can do it 'splain away.

Curmudgeon mcneely said:

Joe Paonessa said:

Curmudgeon mcneely said:

Joe Paonessa said:

I ordered a bunch of stuff from the new MTH catalog and didn’t want anymore but hey, they ain’t going to be around much more!

Except…Victor and I responded to YOUR posting about MTH not being around anymore.
If you’re going to open the door, don’t complain when it smacks you upside the head.

Ahhh, why bother splaining?

Generally, one finds it’s easier to get it right the first time than to have to 'splain later.
But not always.
Sometimes all folks can do it 'splain away.

Agreed,

My support of Aristo thru RLD Hobbies of I.L. of course, the best Large scale Dealer out their.

Nick S. said:

Curmudgeon mcneely said:

Joe Paonessa said:

Curmudgeon mcneely said:

Joe Paonessa said:

I ordered a bunch of stuff from the new MTH catalog and didn’t want anymore but hey, they ain’t going to be around much more!

Except…Victor and I responded to YOUR posting about MTH not being around anymore.
If you’re going to open the door, don’t complain when it smacks you upside the head.

Ahhh, why bother splaining?

Generally, one finds it’s easier to get it right the first time than to have to 'splain later.
But not always.
Sometimes all folks can do it 'splain away.

Agreed,

My support of Aristo thru RLD Hobbies of I.L. of course, the best Large scale Dealer out their.

I see your brother bought some more trains!!