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Are the Bachmann 2-6-6-2 Mallets 1:20.3?

Are the Bachmann 2-6-6-2 Mallets 1:20.3? If so, why are the doors so smal compare to the Railroad Avenue figures?

Just as a reference… I know these aren’t 2-6-6-2’s …

(http://narrowmind.railfan.net/062ST_NG.JPG)

(http://narrowmind.railfan.net/2662_SV_tanks-tender.JPG)

I’m guessing…notice the small door openings?

This guy would sure have a hard time getting in the door both height and width.

(http://timothydehan.com/redmondcreekrr/images/IMG_2232800x600.jpg)

timmyd said:
Are the Bachmann 2-6-6-2 Mallets 1:20.3? If so, why are the doors so smal compare to the Railroad Avenue figures?
That's what it says on the box and on the Bachmann site...guess it's a real 'short-line' locomotive after all, eh?

tac
www.ovgrs.org

I am also curious if the size is correct between the Bachmann K27 and the 2-6-6-2 if both are 1:20.3.

timmyd said:
I am also curious if the size is correct between the Bachmann K27 and the 2-6-6-2 if both are 1:20.3.
The K-27 IS 1/20.3. I have the AccuCraft model, and since getting it I've been and measured the real thing.

Since the Biles-Colman loco on which the Bachmann loco was based was never actually built, it’s going to be pretty difficult to determine WHAT scale it really is. It’s a bit like the so-called ‘scale models’ of the starship ‘Enterprise’ - no prototype exists there either, so how can you have a scale model of it?

The relative sizes of one with another are only going to make your head ache - one loco IS real, the other one is not. All I know is that a SIMILAR loco to the Biles-Colman model is pretty small - remember that the K-27 is a pretty big loco by NG standards, and the K-36 is humungous. In many third world countries they would be Class 1 power.

tac
www.ovgrs.org

this refresher may help?

http://120pointme.blogspot.com/2009/01/bachmanns-1203-baldwin-2-6-6-2.html

Ok. So do you think these shots look ok?

(http://timothydehan.com/redmondcreekrr/images/IMG_2234_cropped_1024x768.JPG)

(http://timothydehan.com/redmondcreekrr/images/IMG_2233_cropped_1024x768.JPG)

timmyd said:
Ok. So do you think these shots look ok?

(http://timothydehan.com/redmondcreekrr/images/IMG_2234_cropped_1024x768.JPG)

(http://timothydehan.com/redmondcreekrr/images/IMG_2233_cropped_1024x768.JPG)

Tall engineer/firemen DO exist. tac www.ovgrs.org

What is the measurement of the door height and figures in inches or mm?

-Brian

Yes, small NG steam did not have huge doors in a lot of cases.

Brian Donovan said:
What is the measurement of the door height and figures in inches or mm?

-Brian


Haven’t measured either the figure or the door height. However, both are claimed to be 1:20.3

timmyd said:
Ok. So do you think these shots look ok?

(http://timothydehan.com/redmondcreekrr/images/IMG_2234_cropped_1024x768.JPG)

(http://timothydehan.com/redmondcreekrr/images/IMG_2233_cropped_1024x768.JPG)

Guess it depends. http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=47305 http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=34426 http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=117927

(http://home.bresnan.net/~bpratt15/images/DPS/Loco21AtAtchee.jpg)

(I think that’s a shay parked in front of it, for comparison.) And, yes, hold your fire, I know we’re talking about different types of locomotives … but my point is, a 1:1 cab that size isn’t unheard of, particularly with the high dome of the roof. If you look at that article Cale referenced, you can see the difference in size between the Biles Coleman (a very small 2-6-6-2 narrow gauge mallet in 1:20.3) and the LGB Uintah 2-6-6-2 (a very large, comparitively 2-6-6-2 narrow gauge mallet in 1:22.5) I think it is, like the climax, a deceptively large model of a very small prototype, in 1:20.3 (edited to add more photos.)

Oh dear , another manufacturer making rubber models .
And we had it drummed into us that only LGB did such things .
Well , at last I don’t need to hide mine away any more with the shame of it .
Must play with my Heidi to show her I’m sorry .

Mike M

(http://loggingmallets.railfan.net/list/prop/d-bilescoleman.gif)

Here’s a conjectural drawing of the locomotive of which the B’mann loco is modeled. Going by those measurements, the doorway looks to be roughly around 5’ 3" tall. Later, K

As far as I am aware, Bachmann have only made one false claim as to the scale of a model loco that was supposedly 1:20.3.
The second version of the 0-4-0 side tank loco.
This used exactly the same 1:22.5 scale body as the original model, which had a re-engineered drive, was repackaged as Spectrum and branded 1:20.3.

I cannot for the life of me believe that Bachmann would run the risk of making bogus claims as to the over all scale of any model nowadays. Scale is a relatively easy thing for the buying public to check.

As Tony noted the Dave-nport and the latest Skidder are both listed as either Big Hauler or Large-Scale

Well, either the 2 figures are not 1:20.3 or the loco cab is not 1:20.3.

Waiting on the measurements of the cab door, that will convince me.

Regards, Greg

Small cabs were not uncommon on many locos as delivered.
The two 30" gauge Garrats that ran in Victoria had low cabs. The roofs were raised 9" to accomodate the crews.