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Apple Users-Security Fix

I installed the new Apple security update yesterday, it no longer supports Rosetta(whatever that is). Which means a lot of your programs may not work. On mine, Appleworks/Eudora/Color It and some other programs would not work. A guy in Omaha came up with a fix that worked for me.

http://www.educate-it.org/content.php?130-Rosetta-Issue-after-Security-Update-2012-001

Hi Jerry,

I have the idea that Rosetta (Stone) is a language learning program. I might be wrong but that was what first came to mind.

Rosetta I think, is a software conversion program that allows software designed to run on PowerMac processors in older Mac computers to run on the newer Intel Macs. Apparently the newest OS by Apple, Lion, gags on Rosetta, hence it is no longer supported. I lost the use of one application recently as well. Time marches on…

Jerry, All:

RosettaStone™ is a language learning program. It is a product of the company Rosetta Stone, Ltd. with headquarters in Arlington, VA. RosettaStone is considered to be one of the best language learning programs available for home and business computers and it is fully supported by the Mac OS.

Apple’s Rosetta (nothing to do with RosettaStone) is a part of the Mac OS that allowed Intel-based Macs to run applications written for earlier PowerPC-based systems. Support for Rosetta was discontinued with the release of OS X v10.7, Lion. That occurred in early 2011. The net effect is that some older Apple and / or third party applications like Quicken need to be upgraded to more modern versions that are compatible with the Intel-based computer systems.

Note that Apple was unique in continuing support for applications using an earlier and completely different chip architecture for something like 5+ years. And then they only discontinued support during a major OS upgrade from Snow Leopard to Lion. No one was forced to move up to Lion.

There are several work arounds for those few applications where no version is available for Power PC-based machines, but upgrading the application is the best solution. The small costs associated with upgrading applications is usually returned in terms of performance, added capabilities and better support.

Be certain you have the latest version (1.1) of the security update. Apparently the first version caused some print problems.

It is just a fact of life that support for older technologies will disappear.

Happy RRing,

Jerry

Unfortunately my browser (Safari 4.1.3) is starting to freeze or crash a lot lately, and they aren’t updating it anymore. Which means I’m going to be forced to “upgrade” my OS from 10.4.11 to whatever the heck the current version is, except that you can’t actually do a direct upgrade. First you have to buy the previous version, then upgrade from that to the current version. I’m not even sure what to do about the OS on all my backup drives.

Then I’ll probably have to upgrade or replace all my apps to make them work with the new OS.

I hate “upgrades”. Just an excuse to force you to keep buying something.

Ray, sorry to hear your troubles,

I recently bought a MacBook Pro i7 running OS X Lion 10.7.2 and I find that it is slow at times, firefox crashed often- lately it has not been as bad.

Windows on Bootcamp is slow too, slower than on the old laptop it replaced!

Alec

Ray:

If Safari has a problem with certain websites, you probably do need to upgrade to have full access to new web ‘stuff.’ You are correct that Safari 4.1.3 is the last version of the Power PC based application. It is incorrect that Apple is not upgrading Safari: Version 5.1.2 is the current one. Assuming you are still running it on a Power PC, you will also need to upgrade to an Intel-based machine.

Meanwhile, software doesn’t wear out like a car, but websites are modernized to take advantage of the latest available technologies. A web designer working on a new project in 2012 does not want to be limited to only using the tools that were available in 2003 when the original 10.4 version of Safari was produced.

Some suggestions:

How long has it been since you restarted both Safari and the computer? That is one of the basic fixes for bad performance.

What do you you use for web access? The spinning beach ball is caused by either slow network performance, or by the size and complexity of the site being loaded. You can’t do anything about the size of the web content, but you might be able to get faster network access.

There is a free program at www.speedtest.net that will check how your network connection is working. It will show ping, upload and download speeds for your connection. This will help you determine where the slowdown is.

I’m writing this on a PowerBook G4, running OSX ver. 10.4.11 & Safari 4.1.3. This computer is verry slow and is only used for email and reading text content websites. I don’t use this machine for anything to do with YouTube, movies or any advanced content. My primary machine is a MacBook with good enough performance to uses most of the latest web features.

Upgrades are necessary to keep up with the development of content and capability. There is just no way a 5 or 10 year old Power PC running at 867MHz will satisfactorily work on the high bandwidth video content that is on the internet today. Same with dialup access. Today’s content forces the upgrades.

Hope this helps.

Happy (High Bandwidth) RRing,

Jerry

I use Safari alot. I haven’t had any problems to date. The only problem is I cant get on my computer down stairs.
I injured my foot last night at work and set here upstairs in the sofa with my leg up in heating pad blanket and a blanket.
But on my IMac i use safari up here I have an HP laptop. I use my IMac for everything unlike this laptop.
I use Lepard the OS that came with my IMac a few years back.

Apple is trying everything they can to keep us from using Appleworks. I won’t install the update until I get the work around!

Alec Escolme said:
I recently bought a MacBook Pro i7 running OS X Lion 10.7.2 and I find that it is slow at times, firefox crashed often- lately it has not been as bad. Alec
Alec:

OS X, Ver.10.7.3 is current. Do the (free) software update. It might fix the problems you are seeing. Make certain you are running the latest version of Firefox (also free).

Also run the speed test I linked above. That will show how your network connection is performing.

The fastest computer in the world is still limited by the bandwidth of the network connection.

If none of that helps, report the problem to Apple and to Mozilla.

Happy RRing,

Jerry

Jerry Bowers said:
Alec Escolme said:
I recently bought a MacBook Pro i7 running OS X Lion 10.7.2 and I find that it is slow at times, firefox crashed often- lately it has not been as bad. Alec
Alec:

OS X, Ver.10.7.3 is current. Do the (free) software update. It might fix the problems you are seeing. Make certain you are running the latest version of Firefox (also free).

Also run the speed test I linked above. That will show how your network connection is performing.

The fastest computer in the world is still limited by the bandwidth of the network connection.

If none of that helps, report the problem to Apple and to Mozilla.

Happy RRing,

Jerry


Many thanks Jerry,
I have updated it to v. 10.7.3, so I will see how things hold up…
Our internet gets 9 to 10mbs usually, connected to a Wireless N Router, so network speeds should not be a problem.
I will contact Apple if it gets worse again.

Alec

<< If Safari has a problem with certain websites, you probably do need to upgrade to have full access to new web ‘stuff.’ You are correct that Safari 4.1.3 is the last version of the Power PC based application. It is incorrect that Apple is not upgrading Safari: Version 5.1.2 is the current one. Assuming you are still running it on a Power PC, you will also need to upgrade to an Intel-based machine.>>

I’m on an Intel Mac. The information posted on the Apple tech support forums stated that you need OS X 10.5 or later to use the newer version of Safari.

<< Meanwhile, software doesn’t wear out like a car, but websites are modernized to take advantage of the latest available technologies. A web designer working on a new project in 2012 does not want to be limited to only using the tools that were available in 2003 when the original 10.4 version of Safari was produced.>>

Yeah, well I don’t know what new bells and whistles they so desperately seem to need, but I have noticed that it’s usually the websites with lots of ads that give me problems. So my guess is, I’m being forced to change everything that currently works on my computer just so some idiot advertiser can find new ways to annoy me.

<< How long has it been since you restarted both Safari and the computer? That is one of the basic fixes for bad performance.>>

I know. I do it as frequently as possible, and of course after each freeze/crash too.

<< What do you you use for web access? The spinning beach ball is caused by either slow network performance, or by the size and complexity of the site being loaded. You can’t do anything about the size of the web content, but you might be able to get faster network access.>>

I’m using dsl, but that’s not the issue. Most of the time when the browser goes down, it flat out crashes.

Thanks for your help. I just really hate being forced to “upgrade”, and then trying to get everything working properly again, hoping I don’t lose anything I really need, etc.

On top of all that I can’t even get any help from Apple’s web site anymore.

Jerry, do you know anything about the Apple tech support forums? If so, maybe you can help me with the problem I’m having there. Here’s what happens every time I try to log in:

I enter my password, and get this message: “Please sign in again. For added security, we need to reconfirm your Apple ID.”

I enter the password again, and then I get a page telling me to “pick a user name”, as if I don’t already have one, and also telling me to “review and agree to the terms of service”, as if I don’t already have an account.

So I enter my user name, and then I get this message: “An account utilizing this email address already exists. Only one account per email address is allowed on Apple Support Communities.”

But I can’t find any way to access whatever previous account there might be. If at sign in, I click on “Forget your Apple ID?”, then it sends me an email telling me how to change my password, but nothing about the user ID, and I’m back where I started.

I tried sending an email to them but never got an answer.

Ray, you might want to try TenFourFox–it’s a modified variant of the newer versions of Firefox, set up to run on older Macs on OS 10.4.

http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/

EDIT: Shooooot, it works only on PowerPC, not Intel.

In that case, not sure what to tell you…

Ray Dunakin said:
So I enter my user name, and then I get this message: "An account utilizing this email address already exists. Only one account per email address is allowed on Apple Support Communities."
Ray, If you have another email account, the easiest & quickest solution would be to start a new account on the Apple Forum. Ralph