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Andy's Overlook Switching Puzzle

At the Bluestone Southern May Ops Session, I got to really see how the “Overlook Switching Puzzle” really works. Its a fun puzzle. I’m not good at the track line drawings, so maybe somebody else can take it on. The train is “Overlook 1” and is a local out of Bluefield. You depart with 14 cars, switch like cars for like cars at the industries and return. Sounds basically straight forward. A caboose is attached because of the local run. That caboose became one of the minor problems. :wink: The 14 cars are 7 tank cars, 4 box cars, 1 bulkhead flat and 2 Coke Box cars for the bottling plant. There are the same number of cars already in the industry.

In this picture with Bill Payne and Doug Matheson, you can see most of the trackage, looking south.

In this picture with Mark Hahn and myself you can see the other end that is the north end. The two racks closest are the mainline and once you have cleared the main, you need to stay off the main until you are ready to run back to Bluefield and then to enter the main you must contact the Dispatcher for your authority and which one of the double mainline tracks you are suppose to take to get back to the single track entering Bluefield and home.

Hopefully, someone can make the pictures show, so I’ll just continue.

The tracks west of the station and within the yard limits of Overlook are you’re entry and run around tracks. There is a tail track holding 7 cars at each end. The north side of the yard has a wharehouse taking 3 cars on the siding. The siding will hold 5 cars. Next to it, closer to the mainline is the “team track” with 2 cars, it will also hold 5 cars, I think.

On the south end, left to right (east to west) you have that 7 track, tail track, a tank unloading facility hold 4 cars on the one track and 3 on the other. Further west or right from there is the Coke Bottling plant and it hold 2 cars, with tail track for the trailing points move, that holds 2 cars and 2 engine, usually GP38’s or GP40’s.

Confused yet?

Perform your switching moves and return to Bluefield with the caboose on the other end of your train. Like most John Allan style Timesaver puzzles, you have facing and trailing point turnouts, a run around track and space on the tails of your turnouts limited in size to make it that you can only get so many cars and the engines, where you need them.

I did it twice over the weekend. Better the second time over the first, plus we learned to carefully look at our turnouts before we just blindly left the mainline and told Dispatch we were in the clear.

Great puzzle!

Ric, be nice if’n we could see the pics. (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-laughing.gif)You need to re-name the pics to remove the spaces. Put a dash “-” in place of the space. Then click on the button with the mountain sand sun, and paste your jpg in the space provided.

Somebody will fix it for us Steve. I took the pictures from the photos already posted. Above my pay grade.

Thanks Steve and Ken for the help. Don’t do enough of this any more to keep it in the grey matter.

Oh. OK.

I think that’s the first pic. I know that’s Doug, not sure about the other guy.

I think that’s the second pic. I know that’s Ric in the picture.

I saw Paul and Doug working it in the first 2 pictures. Working it with Doug can be a real challenge in itself. (Ask me how I know this)

Thank you, Ken.

Ric, i’ll help make it your “pay grade”…(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

Just copy the the picture URL then click on the box with the “mountain” in it. Paste that URL in the “source” box then click OK.

And just last Fall it looked a bit different…

When we arrived on Friday it was still being built…

But, we did get to operate on it that weekend…

I like all the changes and look forward to seeing it again this Fall.

During the winter, I got to thinking about this Switching puzzle… One of the main changes to it, was I changed all the freight cars to 40-42 ft cars, from 50-55 ft cars… Another thing about it, was the ““tank Farm””… Originally, I had some 55 ft tank cars to go into this area, but those were giving us problems with the sheer weight of the car, being all metal construction…

I shortened up the tank car sidings after I discovered one could place all 4 tank cars originally assigned to that location on one track… With the sidings shorted, I also found that I could add 3 more tank cars to the train and sidings… Thus, this is how we now have 7 tank cars going into that loading/unloading facility…

Actually, Saturday morning, the train lists only showed 4 tank cars going to that location… When I saw how it was working, about 2 pm Saturday, I added 3 more tank cars to the train and that location… We ran with 7 tank cars the rest of the weekend…

One goal of the railroad was to make it so that everyone could feel comfortable running during Ops… The switching puzzles, ““Overlook”” and the "“Industrial Park” are meant to be switching puzzles that folks have to think some about, in order to work the locations… The local freights are for someone who likes to switch during a freight run… Those who would like a break from switching can run a passenger train, or a thru freight…

It’s meant to be an enjoyable experience for one and all, and judging by the comments, I do believe that has been accomplished…

Andy, you just got added to my Bucket List.

Lou Luczu said:

Andy, you just got added to my Bucket List.

Lou, you are welcome, anytime… Ops sessions are posted here in the events area…

Okay, I updated the pictures with the help of Steve and Ken. Sorry, just not posting many pictures these days.

As Andy said, the switching puzzles are there if you want to do them. I’ve learned that I have to ask Andy what his philosophy was when designing. On the Industrial Park Puzzle, once I learned which track was the “arrival (set out)” track and which was the “departure” (pickup) track, it became a lot easier.

Of course, experience helps.

You got to want to do the puzzles and play the game. Cheating, sliding out on the main and extending the tracks by running the rolling stock off the ends gets it done, but that’s not the idea. Yes, I’ve been known to run a car off the end of the track, sometimes, but that was by necessity to get the job done, having to keep the schedule or just getting tired and tooooo much sun.

After the weekend was done and going over the puzzle in my head, I think I’ve got it figured out as to how to run around the caboose and keep it out of the way, but ready for the return run. I’ll test my theory at the next Ops.

Ric Golding said:

Somebody will fix it for us Steve. I took the pictures from the photos already posted. Above my pay grade.

Thanks Steve and Ken for the help. Don’t do enough of this any more to keep it in the grey matter.

Too much Margaritaville?..(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

Ken Brunt said:

Ric Golding said:

Somebody will fix it for us Steve. I took the pictures from the photos already posted. Above my pay grade.

Thanks Steve and Ken for the help. Don’t do enough of this any more to keep it in the grey matter.

Too much Margaritaville?..(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

He’s a Senior Chief Petty Officer. He doesn’t need to offer excuses to mere mortals.(http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-innocent.gif)

Ric Golding said:

After the weekend was done and going over the puzzle in my head, I think I’ve got it figured out as to how to run around the caboose and keep it out of the way, but ready for the return run. I’ll test my theory at the next Ops.

I get it now, This is how you retired guys keep your minds sharp! (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-surprised.gif)

Randy Lehrian Jr. said:

Ric Golding said:

After the weekend was done and going over the puzzle in my head, I think I’ve got it figured out as to how to run around the caboose and keep it out of the way, but ready for the return run. I’ll test my theory at the next Ops.

I get it now, This is how you retired guys keep your minds sharp! (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-surprised.gif)

Wait!!! We have minds???

How many acres is this built on? My PAZ would fill your tank farm complex… (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-tongue-out.gif)

Awesome running, enjoy enjoy!

Bob K RRR 16 said:

How many acres is this built on? My PAZ would fill your tank farm complex… (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-tongue-out.gif)

Awesome running, enjoy enjoy!

Bob, the railroad is on maybe 1/3rd to 1/2 acre… It looks bigger in Pictures…

Andy Clarke said:

Bob, the railroad is on maybe 1/3rd to 1/2 acre… It looks bigger in Pictures…

Lol…it looks even bigger in person!

Matt Russell said:

Andy Clarke said:

Bob, the railroad is on maybe 1/3rd to 1/2 acre… It looks bigger in Pictures…

Lol…it looks even bigger in person!

There’s also a shuttle bus that runs between Bluefield and Evansville every hour on the hour…(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)