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...and you thought Alco's were smokey?

Look - http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=422_1318288596

tac

That guy up in the engine compartment could use some breathing apparatus !

Wouldn’t surprise me if some neighbor called the fire brigade. :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

Gadzookus…!!

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just like following a garbage truck through a tunnel at rush hour

Makes me think of the commercial for the new BMW diesel powered automobile that is being aired on network television on our side of the pond. Every vehicle except the BMW (of course) is smoking like that in the commercial.

I noticed the narrative above the video stated that that the prime mover was initially started on two cylinders (didn’t even know that could be done). I’m wondering whether the fuel injection could be completely isolated to only the cylinders that were running. If even a small amount of fuel were admitted to the remaining ten cylinders, I expect that it would join the hot exhaust from the two operating cylinders. That fuel would then burn improperly, which might help explain the vast amount of black smoke.

Just a thought,
David Meashey

That looks like an old Adams class DDG under a full power run. That or an old Studebaker Champ pickup I used to have. :lol:

Dave Meashey said:
...the vast amount of black smoke.

Just a thought,
David Meashey


Looks just fine to me…I refer you to the sight of a bunch of Alcos coming up the hill at Hochelaga Montreal…made this loco look like it was running on electricity…

Happy days, eh?

tac

tac;

It seems like a lot of smoke for running on only two cylinders out of twelve. If the remaining ten cylinders were somehow suppressed by negating their compression cycle (not familiar with how the prime mover was engineered to allow only two cylinders to run), then any fuel that happened to bleed into the other ten cylinders would enter the hot exhaust unburned - AND probably burn improperly. I do think that the Fairbanks-Morse opposed-piston prime movers had manual “blow down” valves that could relieve the compression in individual cylinders. The same F-M prime movers were used in Trainmaster locomotives, submarines, and Coast Guard cutters. Anyway, a very interesting video.

Rutherford Yard on the Reading Railroad was just east of Harrisburg, PA. When I was a child in the early-1950s, it was the haunt of lots of Fairbanks-Morse Trainmasters. They seemed to run rich at times, and were able to belch black smoke as well as any Alco. (Of course, the powers-that-be of F-M would never admit to that.)

When I worked for Mack Trucks, Inc. in the mid-1970s, some federal agency decreed that highway trucks could only emit 5 seconds worth of black smoke during startup and gear shifts. I remember that the test facility had trucks fitted with an opacity meter at the business end of their exhaust stacks, so they could determine just how long current production engines actually belched black smoke. Don’t know how things turned out, as I took a position with Norfolk & Western Railway before that program was finished. I do know that some drivers will try to tweak their fuel injection systems and get them running too rich, but that is another variable.

As always, I enjoy the information you bring to these forums.

Best wishes,
David Meashey

Dave,
I was thinking the same thing about the 2cyl comment…Wondering if it was just air bound(fuel system that is) I don’t do diesel work with exception of a few VW diesel Rabbits back in the day but it almost seemed like the system was air bound. BTW I’m very familiar with Rutherford yard, very well hidden considering the city around it…BTW they call that the Lurgan Branch (the old Reading line) Either way great video Tac!

Watched a few videos on YOUTUBE of these diesels when they were in service with British Rail.
Hell…they could really move with a good load of coaches on.
Google DELTIC diesels.
Beware tho’ some vids are after they were replaced and are run by preservation societies ( max speed reduced to about 50-60 mph by law).

Interestingly a REAL veteran Deltic, part of the Deltic Heritage Preservation society and privately-owned, is actually back in revenue service on an agency basis…I’ll try and find the relevant article and post it…

aaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaah, here y’are…

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13592652

tac

Great vid…I see they showed the class 66…Still considering that one. Probably waited to long already.

David Russell;

Yeah, the area around the yard is a lot more built up than when I was a child. I hardly recognize it on those rare occasions when I do drive by on 422 on my way to visit my college buddy (when we both go to ECLSTS). Usually I stay on 81 to Manada Hill, then make a brief visit to Hershey and Palmyra. Then it’s back on 22 to get to my friend’s house.

Seems strange to have the former Reading RR called the “Lurgan Branch,” but at least most of it still sees pretty good traffic.

Roanoke, VA, where I live now, has plenty of action on the old N&W (now NS as well). I do miss the steam excursions, but still get to work for my local NRHS Chapter on the annual excursion with AmTrak equipment.

Yours,
David Meashey

Dave,
Here’s a thread from last year
http://www.largescalecentral.com/LSCForums/viewtopic.php?pid=127255#p127255

David;

Great photos. Thanks.

David Meashey