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Adios Amigos

Adios Amigos

Do you remember when Puerto Rico was raising heck about the US Navy using that nothing little island just off the coast of Puerto Rico for bombing practices, which they had used for the past 75 years?

Demonstrations were held; Hollywood left wingers, Al Sharpton, and his fellow demagogues went down there to demonstrate to get the Navy out?

I am sure it infuriated you just as it did me at the time. Well, here is our revenge. Always be careful what you ask for, you just may get it!

One of the many headaches that the U.S. has had was the Puerto Rican island of Vieques. In the waning years of the Clinton Administration protesters demanded that the US Navy abandon bombing and naval gunfire exercises that had taken place on the largely uninhabited island for nearly seventy years.

In 2002, the bombing exercises were transferred to an Air Force bombing range in central Florida not far from Jacksonville and Pensacola Naval Air Station s. In January, many of the protesters were back in Puerto Rico, celebrating the final bombing exercise on Vieques and waved Puerto Rican flags and placards that read “U. S. Navy, get out of Puerto Rico.”

The following February, Rumsfeld announced that the U. S. Navy will close the Roosevelt Roads Naval Air Station in Puerto Rico in 2004, eliminating 1200 civilian jobs as well as 700 military positions. This naval facility is estimated to have put nearly $300 million annually into the local economy.

The next day a stunned Governor Sila Calderon, held a news conference in San Juan protesting the base closure as a serious blow to the Commonwealth’s fragile economy. The governor stated that "The people of Puerto Rico don’t now or never did have an interest in closing the Vieques bombing range or the Roosevelt Roads naval base. We are interested in both staying in Puerto Rico.

When asked, the Commander-in-Chief, Western Atlantic Command, said, “Without Vieques, I see no further need for the facility at Roosevelt Roads. None.”

So, Yankee go home? Fine. But we’ll take our dollars with us. Hasta la vista, baby!

On February 21, the Secretary of Defense also announced that starting this year, the U.S. European Command would begin moving most, if not all, of its active combat and support units from bases in Germany to others being established in Poland, The Czech Republic, Hungary and Turkey to “better position them for rapid deployment to likely hot spots in those parts of the world.”

Immediately the business and government leaders in the German states of Hesse, Rinelandand Wurttemburg, protested the loss of nearly $6 billion US revenue each year from the bases and manpower to be displaced. A spokesman for the Foreign Ministry speculated that the move may be “what the Americans call ‘payback’ for the actions of this government in opposing Military action in Iraq.”

"Does anyone know the German translation for: “Hasta la vista, baby?” I think “Aufwiedersehen, linesmen” is a good translation.

Oh, isn’t it nice to see a government with guts and a good memory???

Also, here are some statistics and conclusions about a different subject.

If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theater of operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2,112 deaths, when this was written) that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.

The firearm death rate in Washington D. C. is 80.6 per 100,000 for the same period. (…and that was while handguns were outlawed!!)

That means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in the U. S. Capitol, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation, than you are in Iraq.

Conclusion: Just maybe the U.S. should pull out of Washington, D.C. !!!

I pulled out of Washington DC in 1972. Have not missed it a day since. :slight_smile:

Warren Mumpower said:
I pulled out of Washington DC in 1972. Have not missed it a day since. :)
But has Wash DC missed you? I (was) pulled out of DC in 1949/50 ...

Steve, thats rich! LOL, maybe the govenor of PR should get in touch with the President of the Phillipeans to get some pointers on what to do with all that land now, and what to do with the thousands of civilians tossed onto the streets after the US shut down its navy base there and all those yankee devil sailors finally left after years of protest and took their millions of evil gringo greenbacks, that used to get pumped into the national economy, with them.

You said it best, be carefull what you wish for, you might get it.

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I pulled out of DC on Monday…nice place to visit…but wouldn;t wanna live there!!!

Hey! I resemble that remark!!! :frowning:

Warren Mumpower said:
I pulled out of Washington DC in 1972. Have not missed it a day since. :)
You beat me by 20 years. Though I do miss the regular ops sessions on my dad's railroad (okay, and the rest of the family), I can't say I have any desire to relocate back. It is a nice place to visit, and I'm anxious for Suzi to be old enough to appreciate the museums. (I'm quite positive she's already old enough to appreciate the ice cream parlor in the American History Museum.) One pleasant side-effect of leaving DC is that I seem to have managed to leave my allergies there. I've since discovered that it's quite pleasant to be outside from April to June without a box of Kleenex surgically attached!

Later,

K

I’m just not that much of a people person!

Steve, damn good post!

Jon.

As much as we so vocally proclaim that we believe in democracy and freedom and the rights of man, our gubmint has backed some real stinkers over the years. As long as it was good for our “defense” or our corporation’s pocketbooks we looked the other way while they screwed their own people… worse, the CIA sometimes even helped these guys stay in power by running “training schools” which taught them interesting ways to stifle dissent and dissenters. Yes, we’d like to think we always wear the white hats, but do we really?..

We’re more like the wolf in a sheep skin…:frowning:

Hi Guys,
Where is the Navy going to move those P_R bases?? Here’s a thought why dont they set it up on the US/ Mexican border where it would do the USA some good. They could bring back a few of the base’s from Germany and put them down there too. Let them greenbacks help our owen economy and protect our borders at the same time.
chuckger

Good idea Chuckger… better yet why not turn a the US Mexican border into a Navy practice range. That would solve several problems.

Bob