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A "set out" logger's cabin for the Little River Rail Road

The Little River Rail Road in Eastern Tennessee constructed these “set out” cabins for its hard working loggers and their families.

They would haul them to a camp site and “set them out” in what were frequently called “string towns” a line of buildings along the rail road.

Interestingly one of the original set out cabins is still in existence 85 years later at the Little River RR museum in Townsend Tennessee. I was there this past summer and photographed the prototype. I was able to get a one foot ruler at a local store and did my first field research photos of a prototype structure I wanted to recreate in 1:20.3. Amazingly the planks used in the prototype are one foot across and speak to the huge trees that were cut in this area, now the Great Smoky Mountains National Park.

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I have read a lot about using clear acrylic “plexiglass” plastic here on this site and thought I would give it a try in my attempts to model a set out cabin. Here are some first shots of craft sticks cut to 1 foot width in 1:20.3 and two of the acrylic end pieces I made using the score and snap technique. The wood pieces have received an India Ink stain and Thompson’s Water Seal treatment.

I am very interested in your comments on constructing models using acrylic plastic sheathed with wood. I would love to hear your experiences in this technique and advice regarding adhesives used etc. If there is a past article here on how to do this please let me know. I tried the search engine and only got a little. Doc Tom

Nice prototype and nice start Doc. 3M automotive trim adheshive, or goop, or adhesive caulk should do the trick for you. :slight_smile:

Hi Tom,
My Smith’s Camp buildings were constructed wood on Acrylic.
I used E6000 for adhesive.

Thread here http://www.largescalecentral.com/LSCForums/viewtopic.php?id=15297

Good build subject.
We call them skid shacks out here but the purpose was/is the same.

Rick

Doc Tom,

I’m wondering about the Thompson’s Water Seal before the gluing. Just thinkin’ and that has proved to be dangerous, many times.

Ric Golding said:
Doc Tom,

I’m wondering about the Thompson’s Water Seal before the gluing. Just thinkin’ and that has proved to be dangerous, many times.


Hi Ric,
Thanks for the input. Does the pre treatment with the Thompson’s prevent adhesion with the glue???

Doc Tom

Dave Marconi said:
Nice prototype and nice start Doc. 3M automotive trim adheshive, or goop, or adhesive caulk should do the trick for you. :)
Hi Dave,

I did get a tube of Goop at Lowe’s this weekend. Is it useful in gluing acrylic to acrylic???

Thanks.

Doc Tom

Rick Marty said:
Hi Tom, My Smith's Camp buildings were constructed wood on Acrylic. I used E6000 for adhesive.

Thread here http://www.largescalecentral.com/LSCForums/viewtopic.php?id=15297

Good build subject.
We call them skid shacks out here but the purpose was/is the same.

Rick


Hi Rick,

That is a beautiful model and you have a lot of good ideas on the thread. I will be studying it at length.

Where does one find E6000? The local Clarksville Tn Lowe’s does not have it.

Thanks.

Doc Tom

Doc,

You asked - “Does the pre treatment with the Thompson’s prevent adhesion with the glue???”

I really don’t have a clue, it just shot up a red flag for me. If you could get a piece glued up and outside during the Winter Nasty’s , you’d get a good test. :wink:

Around here you can find E6000 at Ace Hdwre, Michaels, etc.

Tom they should look great. I got the idea for my logging bunks from my logging in the smokies book. Very similar to what you are doing although mine were modified some. I iused some boards and built a box. then i faced it with those fun stix from a craft store. Its all held together using a pin nailer and titbondIII

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. Bunks arrived on location at Camp Kittatinny.

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Steam Donkey pulling bunks into place

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Bunk houses are put into place.

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Break time. Tough day for the guys but now they have a place to relax when opperations start back up.

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A birds eye view from the fire tower

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Tom Grabenstein said:
Dave Marconi said:
Nice prototype and nice start Doc. 3M automotive trim adheshive, or goop, or adhesive caulk should do the trick for you. :)
Hi Dave,

I did get a tube of Goop at Lowe’s this weekend. Is it useful in gluing acrylic to acrylic???

Thanks.

Doc Tom


That it will also do , Doc.

The Thompson’s Water Seal might make it difficult for the adhesive to penetrate the wood to make a strong bond, though I’m not sure that the adhesive ever penetrates the wood enough to make a difference. The wood should still be rough enough to give enough “tooth” for the glue to take effect. If it will stick to the acrylic, I think it will stick to the wood. I think.

Let us know who it works out.

Try one house with the Thompson’s and one where you delay the application of the Thompson’s until after construction. Thrown them both into the dish washer on full cycle. The one that has the most boards still stuck on is the winner. :lol:

Try one house with the Thompson’s and one where you delay the application of the Thompson’s until after construction. Thrown them both into the dish washer on full cycle. The one that has the most boards still stuck on is the winner.

I like your way of thinking Steve. :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :wink:

Shawn,

Your models look great. I hope mine turn out 50% as nice. Very good pictures too. Glad to see you used the homely craft sticks too.

Doc Tom

John Bouck said:
Around here you can find E6000 at Ace Hdwre, Michaels, etc.
Thanks John. I think I can get this at our local Hobby Lobby. Looks like it is a "craft glue."

Doc Tom

Dave Marconi said:
Tom Grabenstein said:
Dave Marconi said:
Nice prototype and nice start Doc. 3M automotive trim adheshive, or goop, or adhesive caulk should do the trick for you. :)
Hi Dave,

I did get a tube of Goop at Lowe’s this weekend. Is it useful in gluing acrylic to acrylic???

Thanks.

Doc Tom


That it will also do , Doc.

Good. I will be gooping soon. What a name for a glue.

Doc Tom

Steve Featherkile said:
The Thompson's Water Seal might make it difficult for the adhesive to penetrate the wood to make a strong bond, though I'm not sure that the adhesive ever penetrates the wood enough to make a difference. The wood should still be rough enough to give enough "tooth" for the glue to take effect. If it will stick to the acrylic, I think it will stick to the wood. I think.

Let us know who it works out.

Try one house with the Thompson’s and one where you delay the application of the Thompson’s until after construction. Thrown them both into the dish washer on full cycle. The one that has the most boards still stuck on is the winner. :lol:


Love a scientist who believes in the scientific method to check out problems and theorems !!!

I think the Thompson’s does mess with adhesion. Will redo the boards with stain only and glue them down and brush on the Thompson’s AFTER the building is finished.

Doc Tom

Steve is always thinking ‘outside of the box’. :smiley:

Ric Golding said:
Doc,

You asked - “Does the pre treatment with the Thompson’s prevent adhesion with the glue???”

I really don’t have a clue, it just shot up a red flag for me. If you could get a piece glued up and outside during the Winter Nasty’s , you’d get a good test. :wink:


Ric,

I believe you bring up a good concern. I will apply wood stained only and use the Thompson’s AFTER construction. Thanks for the caution flag.

Doc Tom

Hi Tom,
E6000 is an industrial cement that has been diverted to hobby use.
It will do a good job on the Acrylic to Acrylic joints as well as the wood to Acrylic.
It also works very well on many other materials.

On building joints where possible I like to put a backer piece to strengthen the joint. Typically I use 1/2 or 3/4 square wood on the inside corners. This method greatly increases the glue holding surface.

Just my opinion but I wouldn’t put anything on the wood that your going to laminate to the acrylic.
Bare wood is always best for gluing. Any substance; paint, oil, water seal, etc. creates a barrier between the glue and the surface, sometimes the glue can overcome the barrier and sometimes it can’t.
Why take the chance.

Later
Rick