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A new "saviour" for EPL

Fresh off the press (Nürnberger Zeitung):

NZ said:
Hans Rudolf Wöhrl, der gerade für mehrere Millionen Euro seine LTU-Anteile an Air Berlin verkauft hat, plant gemeinsam mit der LGB of America (LGBoA) den Einstieg bei dem Nürnberger Modellbahnhersteller.
translated by HJ said:
Hans Rudolf Wöhrl, who just sold his shares - several million Euros worth - in LTU to Air Berlin, plans to bid together with LGBoA for the insolvent EPL Patentwerk.
Translation of full text coming up a little later, have to get back to work.

Comment: Hmmmm isn’t that interesting!! What a coincidence! :wink: :slight_smile: :smiley:

Curiouser and curiouser.

Is this bid going to be before the banks possibly start investigating the legality of the sale of LGBofA to G45, or after the possible investigation?

TonyWalsham said:
Curiouser and curiouser.

Is this bid going to be before the banks possibly start investigating the legality of the sale of LGBofA to G45, or after the possible investigation?


Tony,

There are five banks in the pool and only one in favour of the deal. :wink: No surprise, it is the Nürnberg Savings Bank. I wouldn’t be surprised if the banks demand a change in insolvency trustee!
Looks like those guys from Nürnberg Savings Bank are more parochial than the average Bavarian, which is quite an achievement! Dealt with some of the “breed” for 25+ years and it has always been “interesting” to say the least!

I’m still working, I’ll translate when I get back. :wink:

Now there are two articles to translate, one more showed up on Nürnberger nachrichten.

Working on it! :wink:

so quit teasing! :smiley:

First the “Nürnberger Zeitung”

NZ_2007/04/12 said:
Banken stellen sich noch quer

Rettet Hans Rudolf Wöhrl jetzt die LGB?

NÜRNBERG - Für die inzwischen schwer angeschlagene LGB gibt es wieder Hoffnung: Hans Rudolf Wöhrl, der gerade für mehrere Millionen Euro seine LTU-Anteile an Air Berlin verkauft hat, plant gemeinsam mit der LGB of America (LGBoA) den Einstieg bei dem Nürnberger Modellbahnhersteller.

Der Gläubigerausschuss habe dieser Lösung bereits zugestimmt. Dies bestätigte gestern auch Nürnbergs Wirtschaftsreferent Roland Fleck. Wie es aus gut informierten Kreisen heißt, zeige sich die Sparkasse mit dem neuen Investor einverstanden. Jedoch stellten sich die vier anderen Banken des Bankenpools quer – allen voran die Deutsche Bank sowie die zur Goldman Sachs-Gruppe gehörende Delmora Bank. Die Hofer Delmora Bank ist hauptsächlich damit befasst, notleidende Kredite der seinerzeit ebenfalls in Schieflage geratenen Schmidt-Bank abzuwickeln.

Für ein langwieriges Hin und Her fehlt jetzt aber schlicht und ergreifend die Zeit, gibt der Wirtschaftsreferent zu bedenken. Mehr als 100 Arbeitsplätze stünden auf dem Spiel. Fleck: «Um diese zu erhalten, muss man jetzt einfach handlungsfähig sein. Das hat oberste Priorität.»

Kingsbridge will das Gelände pachten – aber nur für zwei Jahre

Es geht um etwa eine Million €, die vor allem die Deutsche Bank und Delmora mehr haben wollen, als die Investorengruppe Wöhrl/LGBoA zu zahlen bereit ist und «auch angemessen ist», wie ein Insider sagt. Hintergrund der überhöhten Forderung soll sein, dass die beiden Banken lieber dem britischen Investor Kingsbridge, zu dem bereits Märklin gehört, den Zuschlag erteilt hätten. Das Angebot der Briten sei, die Vermögenswerte für einen guten Preis zu kaufen und das LGB-Gelände zu einem ebenfalls guten Preis zu pachten. Dass die Pachtvereinbarung auf zwei Jahre beschränkt sein werde, müsse stutzig machen, so der Insider. Außerdem wolle Kingsbridge nur mit 15 Mitarbeitern weiterarbeiten. Wöhrl/LGBoA würden nahezu alle Stellen erhalten – je nachdem, zu welchen Zugeständnissen die Mitarbeiter bereit seien, hieß es.

Kingsbridge/Märklin hatte bereits den Bieterwettstreit um das Ernst Lehmann-Patentwerk – so der offizielle Firmenname von LGB – gegen Hermann Schöntag verloren. Der Besitzer der Rügenschen Kleinbahn hatte im Dezember den Zuschlag erhalten. Weil Schöntag die Kaufsumme aber nicht hatte aufbringen können, steht der Modellbahn-Hersteller jetzt wieder zur Disposition.

Allerdings soll Schöntag bis zu 1,5 Millionen € in das insolvente Nürnberger Unternehmen investiert haben, beispielsweise um ausstehende Gehälter zu begleichen. Davon dürfte er wohl keinen Cent mehr sehen.

Anja Kummerow und Rolf Syrigos


My translation

HJ translation said:
The banks are still balking

Is Hans Rudolf Wöhrl now rescueing LGB?

Nürnberg - For the, in the interim, badly battered LGB there is some hope: Hans Rudolf Wöhrl, who just sold his shares - several million Euros worth - in LTU to Air Berlin, plans to bid together with LGBoA for the insolvent EPL Patentwerk.

The creditor assembly has already approved the solution. This was confirmed by Roland Fleck, who heads the city’s business relations department. As has been mentioned in well informed circles, the Savings Bank concurs regarding the new investor. However the other four banks in the banking pool balk - first in line the Deutsche Bank together with the Delmora Bank which belongs to the Goldman-Sachs group. The Delmora Bank is busy salvaging delinquent loans which were obtained from the troubled Schmidt-Bank.

But there is simply no time for an extended back and forth, reminds the city’s department head. More than 100 jobs are at stake. Fleck: “To preserve those one has to act now. That is the top priority.”

Kingsbridge would like to lease the facilities - but just for two years

The contentious issue is one million Euro, which Deutsche Bank and Delmora insist upon, in addition to what the investor group Wöhrl/LGBoA is willing to pay and termed “an appropriate amount” according to an insider. The background of the excessive demand is supposedly the fact that those banks would have preferred the Kingsbridge Capital bid, the company which also owns Märklin. The offer of the Brits is apparently to buy the assets for a good price and to also lease the manufacturing facilities at a good rate. That the lease would only run for a two year period, would have to catch one’s attention, mentioned the insider. Kingsbridge would furthermore only keep 15 employees on the payroll. Wöhrl/LGBoA on the other hand would retain almost all employees - depending on the concessions the employees would be willing to make.

Kingsbridge/Mürklin already lost the first round of bidding for EPL to Hermann Schöntag. The owner of the Rügen Railway won the bid in December. Because Schöntag failed to raise the required funds, the model railway producer is back on the block. Schöntag admittedly invested up to 1.5 million Euro in the insolvent Nürnberg enterprise, for instance to pay some of the outstanding wages. He probably won’t see a single cent of that again.

Anja Kummerow and Rolf Syrigos.


Don’t change the channel, work coming up!

And here’s the take from Nürnberger Nachrichten

NN_2007_04_12 said:
... [b]Scheitert Rettung der LGB an den Banken?[/b]

Das Überleben des Nürnberger Modellbahn-Herstellers Lehmann-Groß-Bahn steht auf Messers Schneide

NÜRNBERG - Rückschlag im Ringen um die Zukunft der LGB (Lehmann-Groß-Bahn): Ein nach langen Verhandlungen erarbeitetes Rettungskonzept für den Nürnberger Modellbahnhersteller droht am Veto einiger Gläubigerbanken zu scheitern.

Insolvenzverwalter Steffen Goede und Nürnbergs Wirtschaftsreferent Roland Fleck bemühen sich bereits seit Wochen intensiv um eine «fränkische Lösung» für das finanziell in akuten Schwierigkeiten steckende Traditionsunternehmen bemüht. Sollten die Anstrengungen jedoch nicht von Erfolg gekrönt sein, wird eine Zerschlagung der LGB immer wahrscheinlicher.

«Das jetzt vorliegende Angebot ist aus meiner Sicht das einzige, das den Standort Nürnberg und die 140 Arbeitsplätze erhalten würde», sagte Goede. Fleck nannte den Vorschlag «vernünftig und tragfähig». Das Unternehmen selbst war gestern zu keiner Stellungnahme bereit.

Erst zum 1. Januar 2007 war die LGB vom Privatinvestor Hermann Schöntag aus der laufenden Insolvenz heraus als GmbH neu gegründet worden. Allerdings konnte der Betreiber der Rügenschen Kleinbahn («Rasender Roland») seine Finanzzusagen nicht erfüllen, weshalb die Zukunft des Unternehmens ungewisser denn je erscheint und alle Beteiligten erneut fieberhaft nach neuen Geldgebern fahnden (wir berichteten).

Goede bestätigte nun, dass es gemeinsam mit der Stadt gelungen sei, einen namhaften Nürnberger Geschäftsmann zu einem Angebot zu bewegen. Aus gut informierten Kreisen verlautete, dass es sich dabei um Hans Rudolf Wöhrl handeln soll. Offiziell ist bereits, dass sich an der Offerte auch die inzwischen selbstständige LGB of America (LGBoA) beteiligen will. LGBoA ist im Besitz der US-amerikanischen Gesellschaft G 45. Pikant: G-45-Präsident David Buffington werden gute Beziehungen zu Rolf Richter nachgesagt, Sohn des LGB-Mitgründers Wolfgang Richter. Unter dessen Führung meldete das Unternehmen 2006 die Insolvenz an.

Der Gläubigerausschuss hat laut Goede der vorliegenden fränkischen Lösung schon zugestimmt. Uneinigkeit herrscht dagegen offensichtlich noch unter den Banken. Knackpunkt sind dem Vernehmen nach die LGB-Immobilien, die nach dem Rettungsplan komplett an den neuen Investor übergehen sollen. Mit der Deutschen Bank, IKB, Delmora und der Dresdner Bank sind derzeit jedoch noch vier der fünf Institute, die diesem Schritt als Grundpfandrechtsgläubiger zustimmen müssen, unentschieden.

Lediglich die Sparkasse Nürnberg soll momentan bereit sein, die für den Immobilienverkauf gebotene Summe zu akzeptieren. «Zwischen der Forderung der übrigen Banken und dem Angebot liegen nur wenige hunderttausend Euro», erläuterte Fleck. Dafür solle man nicht die LGB-Arbeitsplätze aufs Spiel setzen.

Den Schwarzen Peter wollen sich die anderen vier Institute jedoch nicht zuschieben lassen. «Wir unterstützen die fränkische Lösung», sagte Bernd Sauter, bei der Deutschen Bank Nürnberg für das Firmenkundengeschäft zuständig. Man werde alles tun, damit es für Nürnberg und die Region zu einer tragbaren Einigung komme. Ziel sei jedoch eine «partnerschaftliche Lösung», die nicht zu Lasten nur einer Seite gehen dürfe.

Die Zeit rennt davon

Erschwert werden die Rettungsbemühungen dadurch, dass den Beteiligten die Zeit davonrennt - jeder Tag bis zu einer Einigung kostet Geld. Noch immer ruht im Nürnberger Werk die Produktion und stehen Löhne aus. Zudem werden für den wichtigen US-Markt bereits im April die Verträge für das Weihnachtsgeschäft geschlossen. Doch wer verhandelt schon mit einem Unternehmen, dessen Zukunft unklar ist?

Sollte es zu keiner Einigung bei der fränkischen Lösung kommen, könnten doch noch andere Bieter den Zuschlag erhalten. Als Favorit gilt in diesem Fall die Gruppe um den Modellbahn-Marktführer Märklin. Der ebenfalls interessierte Mitkonkurrent Piko ist raus aus dem Rennen. Zwar verhandelt zudem auch Hermann Schöntag selbst noch mit möglichen Geldgebern, doch liegt von Märklin bereits ein konkretes Angebot vor - ob der Zeitnot ein klarer Vorteil.

In der Branche gilt jedoch als offenes Geheimnis, dass Märklin zwar am Namen «LGB» interessiert ist, den Produktionsstandort Nürnberg jedoch über kurz oder lang schließen würde. Auch bei der Stadt gibt man sich diesbezüglich keinen Illusionen hin. Doch selbst bei der fränkischen Lösung ist schon heute sicher, dass die 140 Mitarbeiter finanzielle Einschnitte hinnehmen müssten.

Gregor Le Claire

HJ translation said:
... [b]Will the rescue of LGB fail because of the banks?[/b]

The survival of the Nürnberg model railway producer Lehmann-Gross-Bahn hangs in the balance.

Nürnberg - Setback in the struggle for LGB’s future. A rescue concept for the model railway producer, which was arrived at after protracted negotiations, is threatened by the veto of some of the creditor banks.

Insolvency trustee Steffen Goede and Roland Fleck, head of the city’s business relations department have been striving for weeks to arrive at a “Made in Franconia” solution to the acute financial difficulties of the enterprise. Failure of these efforts would make the break up of LGB ever more probable.

“The present offer is, in my view, the only one which will preserve the 140 jobs and the manufacturing location” stated Goede. Fleck calls the proposal “reasonable and doable”. The company declined to comment yesterday.

As recently as January 1st 2007 private investor Hermann Schöntag assumed the insolvency assets by starting EP Lehmann GmbH & CO KG. However the operator of the Rügen Railway was unable to fullfill the financial commitments, leaving the future of the enterprise more uncertain than before und all involved parties feverishly looking for new investors (we reported).

Goede confirmed now that, in cooperation with the city, a well known Nürnberg businessman could be persuaded to make an offer. Well informed circles mentioned Hans Rudolf Wöhrl as the person in question. Official is that, the now independent, LGBof America (LGBoA) intends to participate in the bid. LGBoA is owned by the American G45 corporation. Piquant: The good relations G-45 President David Buffingtons has with Rolf Richter, son of the LGB co-founder Wolfgang Richter. It was under his leadership that LGB declared insolvency in 2006.

According to Goede, the creditors assembly approved the presented Franconian solution. But obviously there is still discord among the banks.
Bone of contention is, according to reports, LGB’s real estate; which according to the rescue plan would in its entirety end up with the new investor. Undecided on that matter are four of the five banks ; namely Deutsche Bank, IKB, Delmora and Dresdner Bank, who as real security holders will need to approve the transfer.

Only the Nürnberg Savings Banks is apparently at the moment willing to accept the offer for the real estate. “There are only several hundred thousand Euros between the offer of the investor and the demands of the banks.” explained Fleck. One shouldn’t jeopardize the LGB jobs for that.

The four banks won’t accept the role of the bogeyman. “We support the Franconian solution” said Bernd Sauter, commercial business manager with Deutsche Bank in Nürnberg. One will do anything to arrive at an agreement that is favourable for Nürnberg and the region. The goal is a “partnership solution”, which isn’t to the disadvantage of one party.

Time is running out

The rescue attempt is made more difficult with time running out - each day until an agreement costs money. Production is still idle and wages are owed. In addition, April is the month when the US market finalizes most of the orders for the upcoming Christmas season. But who would deal with an enterprise that has an uncertain future?

Should the Franconian solution fall through, another bidder could still be successful. In that case the favourite would be the group around marketleader Märklin. Piko, the other interested party, is out of the race.
Indeed, Hermann Schöntag is still negotiating with possible investors, but Märklin submitted a concrete proposal - considering the time constraints a distinct advantage.

But it is an open secret in the model railway sector, that Märklin is interested in “LGB” as a trademark, but “production facility Nürnberg” would be shut down in the shorter or longer run. Even the city has no illusions on that count. But even the Franconian solution would mean definite financial concessions for the 140 employees.

Gregor Le Claire

Okay,
Let me get this straight.

German investor and LGB of America are attempting to keep LGB alive. They want to keep producing in Nuernberg. The workers need to make some concessions.

A British investment group aligned with the 4 holdout banks using Maerklin as a front want to buy the trademark and close down the factory.

Hmmmmmm…

Makes you think that perhaps the banks originally called the loans so that Kingsbridge could add the trademark to thier expanding “empire”.

John,

Your Mother raised some pretty sharp kids!!!

Jack

Jack,

Seems as plain as the nose on our respective faces, eh?

http://www.woehrl.de/

Gentlemen,

Let’s wait and see how sharp some other mother’s kids were in the past few years. :wink: :slight_smile:

What is interesting on this continuing “saga”

  1. how quickly some people react to the translations. Either side of the “Big Pond” :wink: :lol: :wink: Patience is a virtue, but in short supply in some quarters. :lol: :smiley:

  2. the discrepancies in the reporting of employee numbers. I guess much like the “reliable sources” it all depends who one talks to.

  3. looks like the banks “cottoned” on to the game that’s being played. That could get very interesting.

BTW someone asked me the other day what the German terms for “shill” and “ruse” are , … welllllll “Anreisser”, “Lockvogel” are two for "shill, “List” and “Trick” for “ruse”, but what fits the concept much better is “Strohmann”.
A bit more on that score as I get more of the “interesting” newspaper articles translated. :wink:

PS as I surmised on occasion; with the new German insolvency law the banks are firmly in control of what goes or doesn’t go. That could be an unexpected “wrinkle”. :wink: :slight_smile:

Hi HJ,

Surely you took the time and effort to translate these two articles (late last night) to see what “reaction” would result.

  1. the discrepancies in the reporting of employee numbers.<

I don’t see the significance.

  1. Total collapse: Zero employees!
  2. HARDT Group/Kingsbridge/Märklin: 15 employees for less than two years!
  3. Wöhrl/ LGBoA: 150, 140, less? with hope for a future!

How would the employees vote? Let me guess------- :wink:

Jack

Are the four banks now starting to ask “questions”?

So far no one has publicly offered an opinion as to where the money came from to finance the setting up of G45 and purchase the “assets” they subsequently acquired. Acquired from EPL who very soon thereafter declared insolvency.

Still, it is none of my business, so I shall refrain from any comment and just ask the odd question myself.

Jack Barton said:
Hi HJ,

Surely you took the time and effort to translate these two articles (late last night) to see what “reaction” would result.

  1. the discrepancies in the reporting of employee numbers.<

I don’t see the significance.

  1. Total collapse: Zero employees!
  2. HARDT Group/Kingsbridge/Märklin: 15 employees for less than two years!
  3. Wöhrl/ LGBoA: 150, 140, less? with hope for a future!

How would the employees vote? Let me guess------- :wink:

Jack


Yes Jack, I was burning more than the “midnight oil” ;). Usually when I say that I’ll do it, I’ll actually do it. Even the voluntary stuff. :wink: :slight_smile:

Employee numbers: fluctuations in the 30% range are a “bit of an error margin”, after the “volunteer work” that was provided last year it could easily be that a few people decided that enough was enough and looked for alternatives. BTW the good people always leave first! :wink: :slight_smile: At least that has been my experience any place where I watched things unfold.

On the voting: perhaps this time even the employees will ask what the real scenario is. Once burned, twice shy. The banks are certainly taking that tack. And like any other bank I’ve ever heard of or dealt with, they’re not in the business of giving away money, least of all if they have securities that they had valuated.
Bernd Sauter, and his counterparts at the other banks, will have to run things by head office. When the news hits the papers there are a lot more ears perked and eyes squinted!

Don’t change the channel, there’s a bit more coming! :lol:

Yes Jack, I was burning more than the “midnight oil” <

I was impressed! I do thank you and don’t really consider you to be a “Schwarzen Peter”.

after the “volunteer work” that was provided last year it could easily be that a few people decided that enough was enough and looked for alternatives.<

I was going to mention that also, but let it slide. Jack

TonyWalsham said:
Are the four banks now starting to ask "questions"?

So far no one has publicly offered an opinion as to where the money came from to finance the setting up of G45 and purchase the “assets” they subsequently acquired. Acquired from EPL who very soon thereafter declared insolvency.

Still, it is none of my business, so I shall refrain from any comment and just ask the odd question myself.


Tony,

Sure looks like the banks are finally asking some questions. :wink: :slight_smile: Perhaps the Nürnberg papers will start following the “paper trail” a bit more, too. But that is always hard to say with a parochial situation.

Watching this one is almost as good as following the Lord Black trial currently running in Chicago as a “prime time” feature.

What’s this “Lockvogel” line ? I didn’t know that there was a “Lower Joisey, Vogel” connection…!!! Which one of the famous family is it…surely not the one claiming Russian model club connections.!!! Fun and games continue !!!

I know one person who is going to be as sick as hell if LGB do survive .
As I have said before , SCHADENFREUDE is a very unpleasant trait to have . You have it in spades , Hans .
Mike