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#21

Vioc Vinyle said:

Paul Stanton said:
Wait Ken! The Frankford Arsenal was on State Road! Paul

Yes…that’s the correct name. Down the street from Disson Hardware Co. They rails are supposedly still there 1/2 mile north of the Tacony Palymra Bridge. Supposedly, the walls were several feet thick. The Pennsy had a direct line to those docks. during WWII, it was one busy place. by that time, though, the Krocs were forgotten lore in South America. Abandoned by both continents that had fed her electrical fires. Vioc

This tale never looses any of its intrigue :lol: :lol: Just to refresh my “failing memory”: where did this Crock originate i.e. who built this Crock? I really need to know, I would like to be the very first to provide the author of “Das grosse Krokodil-Buch” with the urgently needed update (sequel!!) to his book. :lol: :lol: :lol:

You know I really should have posed this as a question to the readership of “Classic Trains”, there would have been a dust storm in all the attics on the East Coast, people looking through their “treasure chests”.

#22

This site has pictures of an L-5 PRR electric.

http://davesrailpix.com/prr/bvpr.htm

While it it has the center cab, the high hood bonnets on the ends …well it doesn’t have the full Kroc look to me.

My copy of F.J.G. Haut’s “The Pictorial History of Electric Locomotives” (1970) has a picture on page 75 of a L-5 with low hood bonnets and a single pantograph on top of the center cab and that does have the Kroc look.

Unfortunately, my scanner is crap so I cannot share the picture at this time.

Maybe our friendly Muscovite with the increasingly better english can provide further insight!!

Paul

#23
Paul Stanton said:
This site has pictures of an L-5 PRR electric.

http://davesrailpix.com/prr/bvpr.htm

While it it has the center cab, the high hood bonnets on the ends …well it doesn’t have the full Kroc look to me.

My copy of F.J.G. Haut’s “The Pictorial History of Electric Locomotives” (1970) has a picture on page 75 of a L-5 with low hood bonnets and a single pantograph on top of the center cab and that does have the Kroc look.

Unfortunately, my scanner is crap so I cannot share the picture at this time.

Maybe our friendly Muscovite with the increasingly better english can provide further insight!!

Paul


Paul

Many of thanks for compliment on my Amerikan English. Why not English Amerikan? I confess, I have a tutor to help me with writing.

The pictures in the Book on page 75 is most similiar to a Kroc. However, PRR in Russia stands for Proliteriat Retribution Cooperative and has nothing to do with trains.

Evidence exists. Nazi archives should have proof of the German bragging about shipping Krocs to Amerika, even if they may of bene made in Switerland.

What is missing, is the nighttime loading of them on to Cargo ship for southern continent.

Sad. Had timing been different, PRR could of enjoyed the great Krocs running side-by-side with GG-1.

Thanks to all for update.

Vioc Vinyle
Moscow Model Railroad Club

#24
Paul Stanton said:
This site has pictures of an L-5 PRR electric.

http://davesrailpix.com/prr/bvpr.htm

While it it has the center cab, the high hood bonnets on the ends …well it doesn’t have the full Kroc look to me.

My copy of F.J.G. Haut’s “The Pictorial History of Electric Locomotives” (1970) has a picture on page 75 of a L-5 with low hood bonnets and a single pantograph on top of the center cab and that does have the Kroc look.

Unfortunately, my scanner is crap so I cannot share the picture at this time.

Maybe our friendly Muscovite with the increasingly better english can provide further insight!!

Paul


Paul,

Yes, that picture on 74a (the dumb beggars forgot to number the pages with the pictures!) looks like “real crock”.